Police called to National Theatre to deal with gender critical feminists sitting on chairs

woah, that's quite a different article isn't it? much more sympathetic. doesn't cover the invisible placards though

I don't think The Mail are buying the NT's version of events.

Daily Mail! Strange days indeed.

It's reached The Mail...

and now those people who had a bad Sunday night are having a bad Monday.

It's reached The Mail...
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7223801/National-Theatre-bar-calls-police-group-gender-critical-Lesbian-activists.html

Sorry Pencils I had both MN and FB tabs open at the same time and didn't concentrate properly!

I meant for the women to sue NT for discrimination, Buzz.

I'm more than happy to chip in for the Lesbian Strength march as well

Thanks Batshite, I get it now. They don't have to give a reason but some reasons are not acceptable.

This is a list of FB gender options. It reads like something out of a comedy sketch. I am not sure how many of them are essentially the same thing

Not 'female' or 'male' though.

How is it kind of true, Batshite? Surely it's simply NOT true?

The police dude got it wrong the way he said it and given the situation. What I meant is, speaking generally, bar staff do not have to give a reason not to serve someone. Usually they do give one, but they don't have to actually have a reason. What they cannot do is refuse to serve someone BECAUSE, for example they are lesbian. Which the NT staff clearly did do, and they doubled down on this in their statement too.

How is it kind of true, Batshite? Surely it's simply NOT true?

My Facebook is buggered atm, can anyone go in and comment on the article? Links to videos etc?

Gay Star News have plumbed new depths

www.gaystarnews.com/article/anti-trans-women-kicked-out-of-national-theatre-over-protests/#gs.o84e6q

Is there a crowdfunder yet?

Wow @ that video of the policeman 'explaining'. Saying the bar can refuse service to anyone they want to, for whatever reason they want. Which is kind of true, but they cannot refuse to serve lesbians for being lesbians. I wonder what prompted whoever to say that lesbians do not have penises though? I mean, the conversation must have been about that right, for someone to say that. So was there some kind of conversation with staff, and it was the lesbian saying lesbians don't have dicks that was the 'disruptive' behaviour and 'abuse towards staff'? If so, the excuse is..pathetic.

Again, not a placard in sight though, and that appears to be a big part of the reasoning used to deny service to these women. Along with them wearing tshirts that offended people. Though still drawing a blank as to how 'lesbian: women who loves women' is offensive even to the TRA type crowd, if you think TWAW, they TW are included in women. So wheres the issue? Again, it all comes back to lesbians being openly lesbian is the problem and is what makes people feel 'unsafe'. Lesbians existing as female homosexuals.

little

Doesn't

Gender Fluid
Gender Nonconforming

Basically cancel out all the others?

Like a sum zero game which I never fully understand but it sounds kind of like it's like that

What’s a bigender. Is that my arse ?

Maybe we could reinvent the old Sex? Yes please! thingy?

Only ours can be Gender? No thank you!

Or mine. ‘Gender: a load of misogynist, homophobic bollocks.’

I don’t see mine - ‘fucking mind your own business’

This is a list of FB gender options. It reads like something out of a comedy sketch. I am not sure how many of them are essentially the same thing.

(Note the prevalence of trans options above all others though.)

Agender
Androgyne
Androgynous
Bigender
Cis
Cisgender
Cis Female
Cis Male
Cis Man
Cis Woman
Cisgender Female
Cisgender Male
Cisgender Man
Cisgender Woman
Female to Male
FTM
Gender Fluid
Gender Nonconforming
Gender Questioning
Gender Variant
Genderqueer
Intersex
Male to Female
MTF
Neither
Neutrois
Non-binary
Other
Pangender
Trans
Trans*
Trans Female
Trans* Female
Trans Male
Trans* Male
Trans Man
Trans* Man
Trans Person
Trans* Person
Trans Woman
Trans* Woman
Transfeminine
Transgender
Transgender Female
Transgender Male
Transgender Man
Transgender Person
Transgender Woman
Transmasculine
Transsexual
Transsexual Female
Transsexual Male
Transsexual Man
Transsexual Person
Transsexual Woman
Two-Spirit

OMG buzz I met one of those a few years ago, waaaay back before I knew about any of this stuff. She gave me the same earnest explanation and when I said "isn't that... just... most people? " she said "NO" very crossly and flounced away.

The idea that being straight and "cis" is "the norm" for women, and that this is synonymous with them looking like princess barbie and jumping into bed with every man they meet, is so fucked up I don't even know where to start.

I only like penis, I have only ever been involved with people with penises, I can only imagine myself ever being involved with people with penises. But I frequently feel physically attracted to women and have in the past felt romantically attracted to them as well. Physically and emotionally, but never sexually - the idea of actually having sex with the women I had feelings for was not something I ever wanted to do. I also only like to have sex with people once I know them quite well. I have a normal range of personality traits, enjoy both traditionally masculine and feminine clothes and activities, and have no internal sense of myself as male or female which doesn't rely on a reference to my physical body. I am easily identifiable as female no matter what I'm wearing because of my height, bone structure, and secondary sex characteristics. I hereby proclaim that I am a heteroflexible cross-orientation demisexual agender nonbinary femme, and I'm more fucking special than any of you cishet wannabe barbie trollops will ever be

• These are actual "orientations" listed on the Childline website for young people to chose from.

We all turn up wearing a t-shirt defining "homosexual male" or similar? And see what happens?

We don't need to be homsexuial males - the options are endless.

I just saw someone very earnestly proclaim how they are totally speshul demisexual, which means she (female) likes to get to know a man (male) before they have sex. I've got nothing against ONS/hookups, but for crying out loud!

She's a very blandly non-special straight woman who likes to know who her sexual partners are first off. BIG FUCKING DEAL.

Is anyone up for a flash mob to protest this? We all turn up wearing a t-shirt defining "homosexual male" or similar? And see what happens?