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Transgender Trend banned from Stonewall conference tomorrow

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MrsSnippyPants · 04/07/2019 21:41

Accused of being 'anti-trans' and producing materials that deny the existence of trans people!

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Manderleyagain · 05/07/2019 20:43

Charlieparley bloody hell. It makes me wonder if parents are going to have to start using legal avenues to get adults to just be more sensible. The school are performing mental cruelty on the kids if there is always the possibility they will be punished for accidentally using a word which would be OK yesterday and tomorrow but not today, and if they never know when a girl might show up in the boys changing rooms. Not to mention how they are enabling the girl in behaviour which is not reasonable by any normal expectations of human relationships. What a lesson to teach them all.

BlackForestCake · 05/07/2019 18:42

Its worth looking for words & things not said as well as those voiced

Didn't Orwell have a word for that? Thoughtcrime?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 05/07/2019 18:32

Can I have a boy day too? Image all the things I could do! Oh the places I will go, the things I will see...🙄🙄🙄

CharlieParley · 05/07/2019 17:40

R0wantrees, yes in England.

FlorenceLyons · 05/07/2019 17:40

I think that's an excellent speech by Amanda Spielman. Clearly mainly focused on the recent clashes between certain religious communities and the new government guidance on teaching about same sex relationships, but explicitly mentioning that other clashes between different protected characteristics are also happening, and reminding people that no characteristic gets to trump another. A masterclass, IMO.

LittleFairywren · 05/07/2019 16:04

Girl days and boy days. Hmm

It's called having a personality. Sexist bollocks.

PatisserieSingleton · 05/07/2019 15:45

Spielman’s statement was quite measured and surprisingly lacking in mention of the T factor. Wonder how it went down?

R0wantrees · 05/07/2019 15:26

Had a chat with a bright, lovely lad of 15 yesterday who told me that he was almost suspended for a week for accidentally misgendering a gender-fluid girl on her boy day. I didn't have the chance to ask him about the details, but he did tell me that he feels also very uncomfortable sharing the toilets with this girl (the boys were not told this gender fluid girl was now going to be using their facilities on her boy days).

Charley is this in the UK?

I agree, this has ramisfications way beyond the risks to safety, privacy & dignity single sex spaces are intended to provide children.

R0wantrees · 05/07/2019 15:24

Amada Spielman speech:
www.gov.uk/government/speeches/amanda-spielman-at-stonewall

Its worth looking for words & things not said as well as those voiced

Needmoresleep · 05/07/2019 12:56

Amanda Spielman should be interesting. Her priority presumably will be to retain communitication with and cooperation from more conservative communities, where 'tolerance' may mean actually allowing girls to study with boys.

The Stonewall and friends initiatives aimed at queering the classroom will not be helping. Giving, as they do, reasons for the more intransigent to claim to lead their communities. There will be plenty within those communities who will want their children to have a more tolerant and inclusive education. But it needs to be one step at a time.

Looking at Stonewall's approach it is almost as if they have forgotten their original aims, or are determined to provoke a backlash. Or that they dont care about other vulnerable or disadvantaged groups: asian girls; lesbians etc, and simply want to pursue a queer agenda ahead of everything else.

BatShite · 05/07/2019 12:32

If they really thought their way was the best for children and such, they would not be so terrified of people asking questions, as they would have answers.

FormerMediocreMale · 05/07/2019 12:30

That poor lad, it would be so easy to slip up, I know I would without meaning to.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 05/07/2019 12:20

Fekko your pic goes nicely with this one....

Transgender Trend banned from Stonewall conference tomorrow
CharlieParley · 05/07/2019 12:17

We are in dangerous waters.

Had a chat with a bright, lovely lad of 15 yesterday who told me that he was almost suspended for a week for accidentally misgendering a gender-fluid girl on her boy day. I didn't have the chance to ask him about the details, but he did tell me that he feels also very uncomfortable sharing the toilets with this girl (the boys were not told this gender fluid girl was now going to be using their facilities on her boy days).

He must think that the supposedly responsible adults at his school have gone completely and utterly mad. And again, this is a kid who doesn't care how other pupils want to express themselves - he just wants to not be involved in that and to have his own rights respected (I am paraphrasing, he did not express himself in these terms. He was pretty upset about it all though).

FormerMediocreMale · 05/07/2019 12:06

And I hope copies of any recordings make it to The Times, Spectator... and other msm. It is definitely in the public interest to know what is being said and proposed for schools. Parents have a right to know.

FormerMediocreMale · 05/07/2019 12:04

I hope someone's taping Fekko.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 05/07/2019 11:57

Of course they do. I’m sure someone will be taping the proceedings.

OvaHere · 04/07/2019 23:03

If they are so convinced they are right about everything why not let the TT delegates ask their questions?

This way just looks like they have something to hide.

Popchyk · 04/07/2019 23:01

Acceptance without exception*.

*Apart from someone who might ask a question.

sackrifice · 04/07/2019 22:56

They are petrified as they know Posie will be there.

WhenIsTheEasyBit · 04/07/2019 22:55

I will be very disappointed if Amanda Spielman delivers her keynote with no reference to this. The new Ofsted framework requires Schools to tackle homo/bi and transphobic bullying, and rightly so. But if the definition of transphobic includes questioning the gender spectrum, born in the wrong body beliefs of some advocates, or the kind of scientific precision that got young Murray thrown out of class, then we are in very worrying waters.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 04/07/2019 22:42

🐔

WineGummyBear · 04/07/2019 22:42

1984in2019 do you have a link to that report? I'd be really interested to see it...

SpartacusAutisticusAHF · 04/07/2019 22:39

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 04/07/2019 22:07

I stole this from twitter

Transgender Trend banned from Stonewall conference tomorrow