Mhairi Black

What made me realise how women are disadvantaged for our biology was working in an office where I saw woman after woman slide off onto the “mummy track” to be ignored or, at best, belittled (often in front of me, as I was seen as “safe” being a bit of a workhorse who didn’t seem to want kids...)

I tried not to watch the video but just did, yikes!

I'm sending my MP the link Jeremy Hunt is down to the last 2 candidates for PM and she has just used his name to disrespect women in a vile way. That is not acceptable behaviour for an MP of any party, male or female.

I'm a woman. I have female genetalia. Why is a transperson more danger to you than me? Why can I pee next to you? It's sexist. Call yourselves feminists?? Feminism is supposed to be about EQUALITY of the sexes

Yeah, I'm not sure you understand feminism.

Let's say women killed two men a week, that teenage boys were being married off to 50-year-old women, that we cut their penises so they can't enjoy sex, that we discriminate against them on the basis that they might become dads, that we pay them less, that we don't have them represent the male population in parliament, that women commodify their bodies, women sell them, traffic them, rape and abuse them and let's clamour for 117 million boys and men to go missing across the world (more than both world wars put together).

And, of course, let's demand that women commit 50% of all the sex crimes in the country, rather than 1%.

Because that is equality.

If, on the other hand, you want to stop that happening to women and girls, that would be feminism.

Why don’t Chickenwing and Mhairi Black hop in the car together, drive to Dunfermline and Kirkcaldy, sit down with the two children who were sexually assaulted by Katie Dolatowski in toilets, and tell those 10-12 year old girls what bigots they are for not wanting a male to pee next to them.

Alternatively, they can both fuck off.

Yeah I wonder whether there are similarities in hers and Ruth hunts experience where as not the most feminine looking lesbians they have been sidelined and extend that empathy towards trans people. It's such a long interview and has so many ill considered ideas. The time she brings up the lack of gendered toilets in peoples home, for fucks sake she is an idiot if she thinks that can be compared to a public toilet! Such lazy thinking.

It seems that she has had a lot of issues with girls growing up and instinctively feels she is excluded from a lot of “female” stuff. She is also worried about being challenged herself because she thinks other women might not believe she is female! That is bizarre... She conflates homophobia that she has faced with transphobia.

@Chickenwing
Hello Mhairi.
Human beings cannot change sex, men cannot become women.
HTH

This is actually painful to watch.

So depressing to hear from such a young woman. Is it that her lack of experience at being a woman means that she hasn't had the experience of being treated as a woman? I know for sure a lot of MNers would say that having been through pregnancy, childbirth and motherhood lets them know exactly how women are treated because of their biological difference to men.

"Don't be a Jeremy Hunt"

How to make sure you are never taken seriously in politics (or life) ever again.

Feminism is supposed to be about EQUALITY of the sexes.

Women and feminists fought for women's rights. We weren't handed them on a plate.

Women fought for and built the first women's toilets. Because before that, women's freedoms were severely restricted by not having access to appropriate facilities.

Women's segregated toilets are protected by law - transwomen are not women.

www.historic-uk.com/CultureUK/History-of-Womens-Public-Toilets-in-Britain/

Back to Mhairi. Is she on drugs? Honestly. It’s like playground insults, her tone. Disappointing. Very disappointing.

Between her and Anne W today I am honestly starting to think that modern politics is so messed up that only eccentrics with an inflated sense of self are in politics. (No particular reason to pick 2 female examples - although as we know females come in for even more abuse so the pressures will be even greater).

Dreadful video by a dreadful woman. Dismisses genuine concerns, calls people cunts and then smirks at how funny she thinks she is. Shes an absolute arse.

@chickenwing
Or are you another who would call me a bigot for being a homosexual female?
I'm afraid there is a rather long queue of homophobes you will have to join.
That is, if you can find me. I am back in the closet precisely because of the issue and the hate I receive from LGBT.

Anyway where’s the wrong genitals. Who has them ?

chickenwing, I will never be equal to a man when I lack a penis to rape with, I lack the testosterone to give me the strength to overpower my victim, and I lack the sperm to impregnate my female victim during such rape.

That isn’t a particularly pleasant thing to type but it is true.

HTH.

(usual disclaimer: namalt)

I’m a woman. I have female genetalia. Why is a transperson more danger to you than me?

I don’t find your self identification as a threat reassuring.

Chicken

You are entitled to believe someone’s declaration of actually being their preferred sex if you so wish. I don’t believe it at all.

I wouldn’t expect a non Muslim to observe Ramadam; nor should you expect me to believe someone can actually change sex. It’s opressive.

I don’t want to get changed next to a transwoman in a communal changing room for the same reason I don’t want to get changed next to my brother: dignity and privacy.

And yes I don’t trust unknown males no matter what their gender identity or gender reassignment status. And I’m entitled to discriminate about who I get changed next to based on either their sex or their gender reassignment status because I have sex-based rights.

@Chickenwing
Please enlighten us as to exactly what makes a transwoman female?
I am all ears.

"Be more open minded and understanding of other people"
Transwomen are not being exactly understanding of female homosexuality, are they? Are they?

Chickenwing.

1. "Someone is not going to go through the difficult transition of becoming a woman just so they can abuse other women in a toilet. If a man was a pervert or a danger there are much easier methods to access woman than going though a sex change."

• A man does not need to go through any transition to use a women's toilet or be considered a woman. All he needs to do is declare himself a woman. (Please note I'm using male pronouns because we're talking about what a man would need to do to access women's facilities)

1. "I find it insane that women are pretending to be genuinely scared that a transgender person is going to harm them in some way."

• It is male people that women are scared of, not transgender people. You may think we are wrong to be scared, but we are not pretending. Do you really think that academics are putting up with harassment and ostracisation so they can "pretend" to have concerns? Do you always think women are pretending when they say they're afraid of male people?

1. "They want to use the female toilet because they are female!!! They were just born with the wrong genitals."

1. "Be more open minded and understanding of other people."

• You don't seem to have taken the time to understand gender critical people. I'd recommend you watch the Youtube videos from A Woman's Place UK meetings.

If you believe that TWAW then you also firmly believe that Yaniv is a woman too. No exceptions.

Someone is not going to go through the difficult transition of becoming a woman just so they can abuse other women in a toilet

They don't have to. Just say the words 'I identify as a woman'. That'll get 'em a pass.

See Datun's pictures of male bodied people who have already done so.

All the lols at chicken wing.

Ah. The internalised misogyny in Scotland. She has absorbed it. There is a weird kind of trope in Scotland, in our popular culture...bear with me. I’m trying to express why I think this has taken hold among some folk, this idea that women are daft for fearing males. So there is in popular culture this idea of the “feisty woman” who is strong, and aggressive, and probably henpecks her husband. Remember Rab C Nesbitt. Rev IM Jolly and the dour wife. The Panto Dames of my childhood, old men dressed in drag. Isa from Still Game, bantering. Ma Broon, and Daphne. Big Mags in Cornton Vale. When you have a mental image of a transwoman as an effeminate, possibly gay, young lad dressed in traditionally female garb, taking hormones and/or en route to surgery (as many folk on the street in Scotland do have), you can see how you might think such a person couldn’t possibly pose a risk to our feisty Scottish women. In fact, it isn’t too much of a stretch to think that such feisty women might even be able to protect the trans person....

I'm a woman. I have female genetalia. Why is a transperson more danger to you than me? Why can I pee next to you? It's sexist. Call yourselves feminists?? Feminism is supposed to be about EQUALITY of the sexes.