Mhairi Black

But until you see how it's all connected, the enormity isn't apparent. The misogyny of the ideology, the regulatory capture, the Trojan horse tactics of attaching to LGB, transing children, the brainwashing of schools, etc.

And it's worrying that with the recruitment of children to this ideology, by the time enough people wake up, it will be unstoppable. Getting into schools to brainwash children is a key part of this. Children are being taught that they can change sex and actually believing it (because trusted adults in schools are telling them this).

Only a minority of children will believe they are transgender, but there will be enough to mean that everyone else has to go along with the ideology to some extent because they don't want to be unkind to these vulnerable children. We're already seeing this start to happen.

So very sorry see someone I’ve always admired letting herself down like this.

She says in the longer video T**f is just a word for radical feminists who want to exclude 'trans people'.

Nope Mhairi, I want to exclude bodies of the male sex from female (ie sex segregated) spaces. So excluding males, including transwomen, on the basis of their sexed bodies. Transmen are female bodied so not excluded.

Sigh. Seems like we have to repeat this endlessly. No hate. No denial of anyone's human rights. For girls and women, not against anyone. But nice try, conflating the issue with excluding trans people .

I’m glad wings have picked this up. Comments not too bad, lots agreeing with wings that snp are going to alienate a lot of people if they continue with GRA reform /self id

Urgh I feel so dirty. I agree with Wings over Scotland. Yuk.

It should also be noted that Dolatowski is in the community right now, has failed to attend appointments, was placed in a female only hostel and has been deleting internet chat history.

Mostly from men, seems they can't give a flying fig about the issue raised but just bang on about independence

It's all very after the revolution, love. Plus ca change.

They'll soon change their minds if it penetrates that enough women will not comply and indy is at risk.

Yes, Mhairi. Pop into prison and explain this to the incarcerated victims of Karen White. Invite the parents and child victims of Katie Dolatowski to your surgery and do it to them.

The comments under the Wings over Scotland piece are depressing. Mostly from men, seems they can't give a flying fig about the issue raised but just bang on about independence

The comments under the Wings over Scotland piece are depressing. Mostly from men, seems they can't give a flying fig about the issue raised but just bang on about independence

Don’t forget this bit Eresh:

Alternatively, they can both fuck off.

I really want an answer though. Black will happily laugh and joke on a video on Twitter, but does she have the guts to stand in front of victims and say what she truly believes? To wear that t-shirt in the living room of a child who has been sexually assaulted by a trans woman? To tell that child that she will be doing her best to make sure legislation passes meaning there is a risk it could happen again?

Come on Mhairi you coward: go and tell those two children what you really think. Go and tell them their experiences don’t count for anything.

She’s so badly informed about women’s rights. The ease and lack of safeguarding in the proposed GRC will make it in turn easier to justify using the sex exemptions in EA2010.

But it will mean women will have to sue some government institutions to make that happen. So we will spend time and money just to stand still.

But until you see how it's all connected, the enormity isn't apparent. The misogyny of the ideology, the regulatory capture, the Trojan horse tactics of attaching to LGB, transing children, the brainwashing of schools, etc.

Yes, completely agree, Datun.

It's also like any safeguarding scandal: people don't want to know because the truth is so unpalatable. So they will turn away from finding out until there's no other choice. Then the shame and guilt at having turned away makes them get their pitchforks out.

The backlash to this is going to be grim. And people like Mhairi will just move on to the next virtue signalling cause. They will never take responsibility.

Why don’t Chickenwing and Mhairi Black hop in the car together, drive to Dunfermline and Kirkcaldy, sit down with the two children who were sexually assaulted by Katie Dolatowski in toilets, and tell those 10-12 year old girls what bigots they are for not wanting a male to pee next to them.

This.

There's been a response posted on the Wings Over Scotland website.

wingsoverscotland.com/no-independence-day/

💐basdan

I'm very out on my opinions in RL now and people largely agree to my face but with absolutely no horror like I feel and I struggle to understand that

It's the sheer scale of the problem. And the fact that it doesn't affect a lot of people. Until it does.

And I realise that sounds like a bit of a contradiction.

But until you see how it's all connected, the enormity isn't apparent. The misogyny of the ideology, the regulatory capture, the Trojan horse tactics of attaching to LGB, transing children, the brainwashing of schools, etc.

Once you become informed, the horror isn't far behind.

for that slap in the face video Basdan. You're not alone.

You're right @Basdan, she is bigoted and disrespectful calling women terfs, moronic and a "Jeremy hunt". How can she get away with this?

Thanks FormerMediocreMale, reading threads on here is pretty much what reassures me I'm not alone in how I feel. I'm very out on my opinions in RL now and people largely agree to my face but with absolutely no horror like I feel and I struggle to understand that.

So sorry Basdan she has no right to dismiss you or anyone else in that way.

I'll pass on the extended video the short version was bad enough.

Oh and when she shared the video she wrote "Transphobia and bigotry cannot play a part in the conversation around GRA reform. Let's keep it respectful." How is she being respectful? and as far as I'm concerned she is being the definition of a bigot herself.
bigot - "a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions."

I'm only 12 mins in to the extended video and have literally ended up in tears of frustration. Having shared my very personal story with her I feel like she is calling me, personally, a cunt and dismissing my feelings and experiences. She is so desperate to be pc and tied up in the history and her experiences of being a young, gay woman that she has failed to grasp that it such a different subject altogether. I can't even find the words to express myself just now, I'm basically just gutted. I know I shouldn't take it so personally but right now I do.

It took me a while to get that it wasn't all about me. I haven't been seriously sexually assaulted, don't belong to any religions with exclusions about the opposite sex and am pretty relaxed in general about my physical privacy.
But eventually it got through to me that was my personal privilege and I had a responsibility to other people and not just myself.
So while I have no huge issues with mixed sex changing rooms that doesn't give me the right to go along with giving away sex segregations that are valued by others.
Just because I can barely run for a bus I cannot agree to give away female sports.
Hopefully as MB grows up a little she will also realize the world doesn't revolve around her.

And honestly, I personally don't worry much about the threat issue in terms of my own life. But I do believe that I am entitled to privacy in terms of changing, sharing rooms in a hospital, etc. I probably spend as much time with close male friends as female ones and I'd never worry about them being pervy. The same for my dad, or step-dad, or my uncles. And I've seen plenty of naked men in contexts where you'd expect that.

I still would prefer not to get changed next to them and see their man-bits. And they would prefer not to as well, because they have a sense of respect for peoples privacy including their own. There is nothing wrong with sex based segregation for those kinds of things in a society, it has nothing to do with being unequal.

What I don't care about is the hairstyle, clothing, or name, of the person in my changing room. It's not an invasion of my privacy if a female person who dresses in male clothing, with a buzz cut, named John, is in the next locker. We don't sex segregate change rooms or hospiitals etc to validate people's feelings that would be weird.

Why is a transperson more danger to you than me?

Because they belong to the male sex class who commit 99% of all sex crime, and 90% of all violent crime. Irrespective of how they identify.