Rape accused boy deserves leniency because he's from good family

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LordProf All about the money.

For some weird reason, I’m too many people’s weird little minds, money automatically means decent people, with a well calibrated moral compass

Well the family may be good but he certainly has no moral compass. Unless by ‘good’ the ‘good’ judge just meant monied and well connected?

Oh yeah....he’s clearly from a great family.

If my DS grows up to think that raping someone is ok, then I’ve failed spectacularly as a parent.
“Good family” my arse

if he was from a poor family they'd go hard on him but because his family have money they go easy
we are 'instinctively' sympathetic to those who are like us and who come from backgrounds like ours, a male judge is from a wealthy/privileged background and here he is just going with his knee jerk reaction
of course the reason we have a judicial system is to mitigate the tendency of humans to be biased like this, judges should be fair and impartial, they should not self indulgently promote the interests of the rich and powerful

The article above said the boy and 12 year old had been boyfriend and girlfriend for a year. Something has obviously went wrong there too, firstly for a teenage boy to be attracted to an 11/12 year old and also for those around them allowing that to continue.

I think we need to ruin boys lives to set an example. All this is doing is breeding entitled pricks like him.

Good home my arse. Who cares, boo fucking hoo.

This whole juvenile thing is out dated and fucking ridiculous actually. I don't care if you're 10, you commit a crime, you get the same sentence as an adult would. All this fucking pandering to these animals makes my blood boil and we are setting up a real problem for the future.

I could go on but I'm too angry to type a coherent sentence.

I really fail to see how a man - well anyone - could not imagine how this girl feels. How her life had been changed by this. All he is worried about is how this will affect the mans life? Boo flipping hoo.

I keep having to say this. There is no such thing as law and justice for women. Britain is just as bad now. Essentially the entire establishment of western society now exists purely to protect the nebulous ideas of pre-existing "social status". We've seen it in Britain before: it was called "Old Corruption".

I hope this girl has someone to support her. Not only the rape, but having it filmed and passed around, and then that scum of a judge maintaining male rights to social status over women and girl's health and lives. Not only should the rapist be chucked in jail - so should this judge, for his appalling miscarriage of justice.

Another suggestion was to use only judges.

Which is always overwhelmingly discarded as even more problematic than juries.

No, you have seen people discuss whether juries should be replaced by a trained tribunal.

That was a suggestion. Another suggestion was to use only judges.

DecomposingComposers Wed 03-Jul-19 19:55:36
And yet I've seen people on here call for trial by jury to be done away with in the case of rape and instead have it decided by a judge.

No, you have seen people discuss whether juries should be replaced by a trained tribunal.

''If we did get rid of juries, we would need more than a judge who has undergone specialist training. Perhaps one option would be to appoint a panel of assessors, such as those that sit on discrimination cases, all of whom would have expertise in issues relating to sexual violence. Panellists could help inform the judge in the case about relevant issues, and remind them of some of the facts as well as the myths; for example, people of all ages, from babies to elderly women are raped (sexual attraction has nothing to do with it); not shouting “no” does not mean consent; and the idea that alcohol is the new short skirt – that a drunk woman is signalling she’s “up for it”.
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/21/juries-rape-trials-myths-justice

nj1015.com/girl-12-says-she-bled-from-rape-nj-judge-doesnt-think-its-that-serious/

A bit more detail about Family Court Judge Marcia Silva.

I would also argue that he should be treated more harshly if he came from a 'good' family, he cannot use a dysfunctional background as mitigation.

This is an appalling miscarriage of justice

"Traditional" Rape???

Of his family were so "good" why didn't they teach him right from wrong?

This is classist, if he was from a poor family they'd go hard on him but because his family have money they go easy - FUCK OFF

That poor, poor girl. Shit like this enrages me. Not only because of the multitude of reasons so many pp have pointed out. Because every goddamned point is completely valid. But as a mother of boys, it is this excusing, minimising, and justification of abhorrent behaviour that makes it feel like a losing battle for those of us trying to teach our boys to be better, to respect girls/women, and more importantly that actions have consequences and if you want to call yourself a man you need to man up and accept them. Not rely on your parents wealth, reputation or highly paid counsel.

If one of his 'womenfolk' had been raped I think the judge would feel differently about the offence, he would be angry because his 'property' had been violated
in this case that girl was someone else's property and she didn't matter, he identified with the perpetrator and can't bear to think of a young man's life being ruined over a 'worthless' woman

I did see a tweet that said because he was a scout, we knew he was telling the truth when he said what he did to that girl.

Agreed - ‘good’ family I guess means food on the table, both parents around, good education, nice home... even less reason to act like a kid (actually a young man) who doesn’t know right from wrong.

But the perp was an eagle scout!!! He deserves all the good things in life!!

No. The judge should be sacked and he should be fucking ashamed of himself.

Would he feel the same if his wife, daughter or grand-daughter had been raped, do you think? Mysognistic dinosaur.

This is a female judge though isn't it?

According to the panel’s decision in that second case, Superior Court Judge Marcia Silva

Not from the op but lass quoted it and others are commenting. From the name I'm assuming it's a woman so both male and female judges appear to have the same view.

Opportunities or not in life, no boy should have this vicious crime treated with leniency.

Who could ever possibly suggest that being raped and losing her virginity in the process has not affected a girl?

It should really be the other way round though.

A child with no opportunities, from a broken home without a glittering future to think about. I could argue that child needs leniency because as a society we let them down and failed to demonstrate good citizenship to them. No wonder they can’t practice it.

But a smart kid with the all the benefits of a good education, a supportive family and social circle, with excellent prospects. That kid should know better.

Sorry - male judge. Ahhh that makes more sense.