Put back in my box

Just read this and was thinking that as I'm sure there are more people with disabilities than transgender people, surely they should have a question, which would be along similar lines, of "What disability do you have?"

Hi sorry I had a noodle around your Equalities Act and I’m afraid I cannot work it out at all. You seem to have a number of acts from 2000-2015. It’s clear as mud to me.

I’d suggest asking an Irish discrimination lawyer to explain it. Sorry I’m no use.

www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/07/02/how-employers-are-preparing-gender-non-binary-world/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.3a82b63665c6

I read this and then I read your thread. I can't believe this is the real world.

It's not very woke of them to lump together all the other 70+ (or are we up to 80+ by now?) genders as "other" is it?? There'll be some maverique types very unhappy with that

Thankfully the last form I had to fill in online had a free format option. I went for "My biological sex is female. My gender is irrelevant for the purposes of this form." I doubt anyone will even bother to read it, but it made me feel better!

I share your pain. I’m not in Ireland, but I belong to a professional body that I am worried has also been “inclusivity trained” is a way that excludes me and I’m wondering what to do about it. It has crossed my mind to point out the conclusions of those on Scotland who researched the census questions and concluded that it was more important to recognise biological reality and add voluntary gender identity questions so as to be inclusive AND factual at the same time, but I have no idea how the conversation would play out.

Regardless of how shit it is at the moment, good for you for trying. I hope you find a way forward.

There was a woker-than-woke article in yesterday's Indie, implying that the sudden loss in donors to the NSPCC was in fact due to trans-ideologues withdrawing their support because they were outraged that Berdorff had been "sacked".

Same in Third Sector magazine. They mentioned MB was a porn star but nothing about their sexism, anti-lesbianism or safeguarding issues. NSPCC are obviously on a damage limitation exercise that makes me respect them even less.

This is outrageous.

What a stupid fucker.

There is one sure way of getting the message across to these twats. Hit them in the pocket.

Sadly, they aren't getting the message. There was a woker-than-woke article in yesterday's Indie, implying that the sudden loss in donors to the NSPCC was in fact due to trans-ideologues withdrawing their support because they were outraged that Berdorff had been "sacked".

In fact I'd put money on most of those lost donors being down to outrage at the organisation tolerating a fetishist making porn videos in the toilets at work then posting them online, in an organisation that is meant to have child safeguarding at its centre.

But there's no action that can't be spun and misinterpreted by these people. DARVO all the time.

I have just parted company with a charity I have been supporting financially for 20 years because they are using a bodily function as a word for woman. Their loss. There is one sure way of getting the message across to these twats. Hit them in the pocket.

".... how we now language identity ....". So language is a verb now, is it? That alone deserves a rocket up the arse, never mind the rest of his crap.

A pedant after my own heart

I'm in Ireland, these are the protected characteristics; there are nine, gender (male,female, transexual), civil status, family status, sexual orientation, disability, religion, age, race, and membership of the Traveller community. The word sex isn't mentioned.
They're using 'gender' to mean sex, aren't they? Whether you're male, female or transexual is your sex. It's just when it's viewed through wokeglasses that it means feelz. So the wokefolk are taking perfectly adequate legislation and rendering it meaningless by redefining the words used to write it.

Do you need membership of the organisation in order to continue working? How important is membership to you? I realise one woman leaving won’t have much impact, but if it was my only recourse, I would leave and explain why in a direct message to as many of the people in charge as possible, seeing as Beardy is obviously so far up his own arse that nothing you say will impact his bigoted views.

I think what has happened here is that people have used gender to mean sex for at least 20 years.

The omission of sex as a protected characteristic is horrifying.

Women and girls as a group have been oppressed snce as far back as we know and continue to be so. Ireland has an appalling history, recent history, of treatment of women and girls.

The omission is therefore quite telling? It's deliberate. Who has got at them and when? The roots of this are deep eg NHS uk doing single sex ward policy in 90s but internal documents show that not just was it actually single gender not single sex, but that the nhs had concerns, that were cast aside, and moreover they were told to call it single sex so as not to 'confuse' the public. This was in the 90s ffs.

How and when did Ireland take protected characteristic of sex out? Was it ever there?

@Juells I feel for you. I’m also in Ireland, I realized only about a year ago that sex is not protected here

I would pick them up on ‘international standards’ - Is the G&LAD really an organisation that can ‘set international standards’? Or is it just a trans lobby group? And are there any other groups that are able to provide better international standard definitions?!?

Meaningless waffle. I want to ask him to explain very succinctly to describe a female gender identity so I can know if I’ve got one or not.

Yes, do this, would love to see his answer! Though it will probably be a circular one (anyone who feels like a women is a woman...).

".... how we now language identity ....". So language is a verb now, is it? That alone deserves a rocket up the arse, never mind the rest of his crap.

The genderfree thread might help you, also can this be an HR matter? That makes it sound serious but I don't see how your identity (as a biological female) is any less important than anyone else's so it is kind of serious. He was sort of being polite but also dismissive and patronising, he sounds like a total arse and I'm fuming with you!

Are there any other members on the website who might also be pissed off? Could you get advice from WPUK? I would want to challenge it but it's tricky waters to navigate.

Not to detract or anything, but I’ve heard chihuahuas can be vicious. and horrible men on bikes deserve to be attacked by them.

What’s the statute you have in Ireland? Go look it up and paste link here. I’ll have a look see.