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Sharron

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Jasging · 01/07/2019 18:56

Causing a storm on Twitter...

Sharron
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RiddleyW · 01/07/2019 21:54

If sex is on a spectrum, what exactly is being measured on the axis running between the far ends?

It isn’t a spectrum so no idea.

DuchessSybilVimes · 01/07/2019 21:51

Well done Sharron. It beggars belief that it needs saying, and yet it does!

BickerinBrattle · 01/07/2019 21:51

If sex is on a spectrum, what exactly is being measured on the axis running between the far ends?

Consider the light spectrum where what is being measured is frequency, with steadily increasing frequency as light moves from red to violet.

What steadily increases along the spectrum from one sex to the other?

Evenquieterlife33 · 01/07/2019 21:48

I bloody love Sharon D. I particularly liked one of her lines in the Martina doc when she said- “I will not be complicit.”

Eaudear · 01/07/2019 21:46

Well sex is binary obviously but I don’t see how Sharron’s tweet demonstrates that.

I think that Sharon's tweet is trying to demonstrate that if, hypothetically, you had to repopulate the world again from scratch, the only way you would have any chance of doing that would be with a male and female. Anything else would be a total non starter. Because sex. Is. Binary.

mabelmylove · 01/07/2019 21:42

Wow. Are there genuinely people who think that if you stick two vaginas or two penises together, you can create a child? I suppose that changes my views on the trans debate a little, because that is ridiculous.

RiddleyW · 01/07/2019 21:40

I get that it’s fictitious - I’m saying that you can have a world where sex is on a spectrum but only people at the far ends can procreate together.

That’s what all but the most insane woke people believe. All that tweet looks like is a sort of version of the “god made Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve” shite. I suspect Sharron didn’t mean it that way but it’s a really crap tweet. Not sure why this misstep is being highlighted here.

donquixotedelamancha · 01/07/2019 21:38

Surely no matter your views on gender, no one disagrees or is unaware that you need certain organs to conceive new life?

The core of the Genderist argument is that sex is a vague spectrum that we can't really define. 'Academics' with disproportionate influence are using that argument to push self ID.

Rachel McKinnon and Sally Hines were both given a lot of air time on the BBC to make that argument.

Sadly it is a mainstream political position to not believe biological sex is real.

Datun · 01/07/2019 21:28

Sharron was inventing a fictitious scenario to refute the bollocks that sex on a spectrum.

RiddleyW · 01/07/2019 21:15

Whilst I understand that there are many ways to demonstrate that sex is binary, it never ceases to amaze that we actually have to keeping doing it.

Well sex is binary obviously but I don’t see how Sharron’s tweet demonstrates that. If you fill in the gaps to make the parable make sense then it demonstrates, I suppose, that you need a male and a female to procreate.

Aspley · 01/07/2019 21:11

I saw a lesbian on Twitter the other day, defining lesbian. Straight away some trans activist pounced with the usual shut up "terf" stuff (the thread was linked to an MP).
The more abusive and public they get, the more people will see this for what it is and the penny will drop.

Datun · 01/07/2019 20:56

Whilst I understand that there are many ways to demonstrate that sex is binary, it never ceases to amaze that we actually have to keeping doing it.

Sharron has the patience of a bloody saint.

mabelmylove · 01/07/2019 20:46

Gosh, you really didn’t get it did you?

Well, no. I did literally state that I don’t understand. The tweet comes with very little context.

UnWilly · 01/07/2019 20:44

Odd article on The Poke about it

"Sharron Davies shared her binary sex fantasy island and got entirely the responses she deserved"

"she took to Twitter to say this (for no immediately obvious reason)"

www.thepoke.co.uk/2019/07/01/sharron-davies-shared-her-binary-sex-thoughts-that-nobody-asked-for-and-got-entirely-responses-she-deserved/

RiddleyW · 01/07/2019 20:39

It’s a pretty gormless tweet tbh. Obviously putting two women on an island does not result in humanity dying out. Unless they’ve got nukes maybe?

DpWm · 01/07/2019 20:36

She didn't phrase it very well Grin but some point was made

Bluerussian · 01/07/2019 19:52

Well said Sharron.

Jasging · 01/07/2019 19:47

She is really fighting the good fight but I hope she has stepped up her security there are some nutters out there, especially the trans twitterati. I wish some other high profile women would be as brave.

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JessicaWakefieldSV · 01/07/2019 19:41

It’s just that to quite a few people these days, there is more to a relationship than procreation.

That’s nothing new! Ha. Relationships aren’t the focus of the tweet. Gosh, you really didn’t get it did you?

AlwaysComingHome · 01/07/2019 19:41

Surely no matter your views on gender, no one disagrees or is unaware that you need certain organs to conceive new life?

Have you ever been on Twitter?

boatyardblues · 01/07/2019 19:37

There are some very stupid people on Twitter. 🙄

3timeslucky · 01/07/2019 19:33

Surely no matter your views on gender, no one disagrees or is unaware that you need certain organs to conceive new life?

You'd think so wouldn't you? Her point is made clear in her final sentence - biological sex matters. You need a man and a woman - not people who identify as men and women but actually aren't.

Eaudear · 01/07/2019 19:33

It’s just that to quite a few people these days, there is more to a relationship than procreation.

Are you aware of what 'sexual orientation' means? If a man said he was homosexual, who would you expect him to be having sex with? Would you expect a gay man or a lesbian woman to have to think about contraception in a sexual relationship?

Eaudear · 01/07/2019 19:30

Maybe I’m dumb but I genuinely do not understand the point of her tweet. Surely no matter your views on gender, no one disagrees or is unaware that you need certain organs to conceive new life? It’s just that to quite a few people these days, there is more to a relationship than procreation.

She is not talking about relationships. She is answering the arguments that biological sex is oh such a complicated grey area and sex isn't binary (whilst apparently 'gender identity' is so set in stone that we need to change our laws to accommodate it).

Many people on that thread are missing the point entirely.

JessicaWakefieldSV · 01/07/2019 19:29

no one disagrees or is unaware that you need certain organs to conceive new life

You need a Male and a female. That’s the point of the tweet.

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