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Sharron

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Jasging · 01/07/2019 18:56

Causing a storm on Twitter...

Sharron
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Wizbetisanizbet · 02/07/2019 06:42

I see OJ is now organising a pile on against Sharron. He really is a nasty spiteful little man.

Datun · 02/07/2019 00:15

To be honest the tweet, without context, does come across as homophobic.

It really, really doesn't.

2BthatUnnoticed · 01/07/2019 23:55

“Male and female adults have physical differences. Those differences are a material reality and cannot be eliminated by someone identifying as the opposite sex. Sex (as opposed to gender) does matter. Here’s an example.”

That’s how I understood it.

Eaudear · 01/07/2019 23:18

Why do people keep saying she is accusing same sex relationships of being 'unnatural' she has said nothing of the sort.

Eaudear · 01/07/2019 23:16

She is not saying that same sex relationships are 'unnatural' she is saying same a same sex relationship ain't gonna result conception.

Fucking hell, the deliberate misinterpreting and diverting going on from that tweet is unbelievable!

I wonder if Owen Jones, since coming out as gay, has ever had to worry about getting one of his sexual partners pregnant? If not, why not?

AlwaysComingHome · 01/07/2019 23:12

To be honest the tweet, without context, does come across as homophobic.

No, it only comes across as homophobic if you invent a context in which it is homophobic.

SarahTancredi · 01/07/2019 23:11

Let's not pretend they give a shit about homosexuals anyway given the amount of time they spend harassing lesbians for not doing dick.

Eaudear · 01/07/2019 23:10

To be honest the tweet, without context, does come across as homophobic.

How the fuck is it 'homophobic' to say that you need a male and female to procreate? That is not making any judgement on the 'morality' of same sex relationships, its a statement of biological fact. Its not transphobic either, how are biological facts anything-phobic?

And she says at the end that sex is binary, which is the point she is trying to make.

SarahTancredi · 01/07/2019 23:09

They may rage but i bet none of them would actually believe their own shit enough to have a relationship with someone who identified as a man/woman.

Remember Robin? The one who believes transwonen are women except for relationship purposes?

Has anyone mentioned womb transplants yet..

MenstruatorExtraordinaire · 01/07/2019 23:05

They are all deliberately misleading what she said and being really aggressive and nasty towards her. I hope she's ok I suggest she goes to bed and waits for it to pass.

JessicaWakefieldSV · 01/07/2019 23:05

To be honest the tweet, without context

All tweets are without context. It’s a terrible way to properly communicate. Judging people’s intentions or views by single tweets is an idiotic thing to do but sadly most of the western works is doing it.

JessicaWakefieldSV · 01/07/2019 23:03

Owen Jones is either just not very bright, or he’s a really nasty little jerk who deliberately misrepresents others intentions. Sharon’s final 3 words are: Binary Sex Matters. It is directly related to the trans ideology, obviously. It has nothing to do with homosexuality. It is not saying being transgender is wrong. Binary Sex Matters and we know Sharon’s main issue is it matters in sports. To somehow misrepresent this tweet and compare it to homophobic ideas about sexuality is simply nonsense.

Gingerkittykat · 01/07/2019 22:57

To be honest the tweet, without context, does come across as homophobic.

Of course biological sex matters, but it also comes across as saying gay and lesbian relationships are wrong.

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AlwaysComingHome · 01/07/2019 22:50

I get that it’s fictitious - I’m saying that you can have a world where sex is on a spectrum but only people at the far ends can procreate together.

Almost everyone is at the ‘far ends’. People in the middle wouldn’t make babies. They wouldn’t pass on the ‘neither one thing nor the other’ chromosome. It’s not like height or intelligence where most people are near the middle.

NoCisAllWoman · 01/07/2019 22:50

RiddleyW Today 21.40

"I get that it’s fictitious - I’m saying that you can have a world where sex is on a spectrum"

Umm there might be a bit of confusion Riddley because you did initially say "sex is on a spectrum" Confused

Whatever Sharron was responding to (I've not read all her tweets), she's only stating what is true and calling out the emperor's new clothes. Go Sharron.

MenstruatorExtraordinaire · 01/07/2019 22:49

Owen Jones has waded in against Sharon now. Nasty piece of work he is to be sure.

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Voice0fReason · 01/07/2019 22:45

Some of the arguments being thrown at her on Twitter are just dim.
It's not homophobic or transphobic to point out that you need a man and a woman to have a baby.
Gay men still need to use a woman if they want to father a child.
Biological sex is not a social construct or a spectrum as some TRAs have claimed.

Jasging · 01/07/2019 22:43

God I've just seen it on a Facebook page "word to the mothers" with people slating her. These are primarily straight women and comparing her to Donald Trump! I had to write a few facts down. Preparing myself for online abuse now...!

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OhHolyJesus · 01/07/2019 22:38

Sharron I so hope you are lurking here. I'm not on Twitter so will tell you here - thank you, don't give up, we need you, stay strong.

I'm pretty sure the pile on doesn't phase you in the slightest but I want you to know that I think you're an absolute Legend.

sheshootssheimplores · 01/07/2019 22:10

Ooopsy. Dat be wrongthink.

RiddleyW · 01/07/2019 22:09

I’m not conflating anything! I clearly say above that sex is not a spectrum, I’m not sure I could have been any clearer.

SpitefulBreasts · 01/07/2019 22:08

@RiddleyW
Gender is on a spectrum not Sex , there are only two sexes. Male and Female .Sex is in no way shape or form on the end of some pretend spectrum. Stop conflating Sex with Gender. Humans are either Female or Male.
Females gestate and give birth, they need Male spermatozoa to enable this process. This is biological not some made up bullshit. It's the truth of Human biology.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 01/07/2019 22:04

I've spent most of today on Twitter. I assume Sharron was reacting to all the nonsense spouted at her on other threads. Wokesters and TRAs insisting that transwomen are literally female, and vice versa. Tin foil hat nonsense. It would exasperate anyone. It did me.

BickerinBrattle · 01/07/2019 21:56

Well we know what steadily increases and decreases along the Mermaids spectrum from one sex to the other:

Hair length decreases and waists thicken while musculature increases and skin color darkens.

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