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Lancaster Pride Expose: It's here!

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Lucky222 · 01/07/2019 14:26

We have lift off with Lancaster Pride expose!

Included is full video of protest. What happened: fairplayforwomen.com/pride/

Why protest was organised: resistersunited.org/blog/

Puppy fetishists breaking saefguarding: resistersunited.org/blog/

Please retweet with if original tweet: #Lancaster Pride #PrideShame #JoinTheResisterance

Thank you lovely Mumsnet for your support on this.

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summerofresistance · 02/07/2019 01:38

And here's a lesbian protester being forcibly removed from Swansea Pride.

Yesterday around 11.15 pm, two of us marched in front of the Swansea pride with banners

Our banners stated: “transactivism erases lesbians” and “lesbians don’t have penises”.

We walked in front of the march but backwards so that the banners would be visible to the demonstrators including to the security staff and to the police.

We did not stop walking or delay the parade.

Immediately we were faced by police and security staff who physically stood in front of us and we felt aggression and hostility from their part.

The security and police tried to manhandle us, touched us on several occasions, touched our banners and tried to take them down and told us repeatedly that we had to leave.

We asked: “Are lesbians not allowed on this march?” and got no answers.

We asked why we were asked to leave that we had a right to be here as it is a public place. We were told we were “spoiling” the parade.

The police and security pressure intensified.

We kept marching backwards and felt threatened, as the police/security staff was touching us.

One of the lesbians said: ”don’t touch me – stand back”.

The other lesbian was cornered by several officers and sat down.

The police officers then grabbed the lesbian on the floor and removed her from the march to the side of the march.

The whole episode was very quick, a few minutes in total.

After having been removed we stood on the side of the march holding our banners and chanting pro-lesbian statements
More police officers joined to stand in front of us.

summerofresistance · 02/07/2019 01:32

And again, similar on Edinburgh on the same day as Lancaster Pride.

Contrary to some accounts I have seen, we were not booed at the rally. There was an act of physical aggression when an angry young person grabbed a placard I was holding and tried to rip it up, shouting “TERF” in my face, but this was quickly handled by stewards and police liaison and I’ve honestly faced down worse violence from violent men than a ripped placard.

Kind of goes with the female terroritory, sad to say.

But what did chill me and did stir some actual fear for how I and the others might fare on Pride was the speeches given by MSPs from the top of the open top bus. In particular the words of Patrick Harvie, Green MSP, where he felt the need to apologise for the democratic workings of Parliament, and the decision taken this week to put the brakes on GRA reform until the full due consideration and further deliberation by a broad range of groups affected by these reforms and, importantly, the conflation of sex and gender that has infested our policy making.

He said, “I am sorry that this parliament very recently was used as a platform for transphobic hatred and bigotry”.

This whipped the crowd up onto a bit of a frenzy, since they had already been primed by the previous speeches that whilst the “theme” of this year’s Pride is “Be Yourself”, the main focus (as it’s been for several years) isn’t about the right to love and express that love without prejudice, it is about “trans rights” front and centre.

I can’t remember the last time Lesbians were ever front and centre in anything LGBTQI+++ related – can you?

So, the need for Lesbians taking space IN PRIDE is pressing. For we are being erased.

I felt Patrick Harvie’s speech inflamed an already dangerous situation for Lesbians on Pride. It did make me fearful, since immediately after, some people started shouting about getting the ‘TERFs’ out – it was obvious they meant us. We had already been blocked in by some very tall people wearing ‘Trans’ and ‘Non-Binary’ flags draped over their shoulders – quite literally and intentionally making us and our ‘Lesbian Visibility’ banners invisible.

Thanks to the spittle infused rhetoric espoused by Patrick Harvie MSP, our situation went from hostile to dangerous. I thought politicians had some standards in public life to stick to. Certainly, I don’t expect them to inflame the flames and put people (Lesbians) in danger of mob attack.

I was dismayed to find out later that my sisters who joined the march were harassed by marchers behind them, had bells rung and whistles painfully blown in their ears and even had a missile thrown at them in the shape of a juice bottle, that fortunately missed them but unfortunately hit a tourist photographing the parade.

They left the march of their own volition; unwilling to make their selves a target for hate any longer and fearing that the bells and whistles might turn into blows or worse.

It was obvious this would happen. The marchers had been well and truly whipped up into a ‘righteous’ anger by our MSPs and others who spoke from that open-top bus at the pre march rally.

The rally where Lesbians were intentionally blocked-in and made invisible.

Where women were told they were bigots for standing up for Female Rights and expecting our politicians to do the same;

Where it was made crystal clear to us that LESBIANS ARE NOT ONLY NO LONGER WELCOME BUT ARE NO LONGER SAFE AT PRIDE.

More here: womansplaceuk.org/2019/06/23/lesbians-at-edinburgh-pride-a-personal-account/

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Weezol · 02/07/2019 01:30

When I was young we were only worried about nuclear subs in UK bases and little things like ww3 breaking out.

I was only thinking a similar thing the other day. Ah, the halcyon days when all we had to fear was the nuclear winter and Thatcher. I feel quite nostalgic about it really - those days when the Labour party gave a toss about the working class and knew what a woman was.

summerofresistance · 02/07/2019 01:24

This is part of a broad trend. Similar happened at Bradford Pride also.

Gay men tired to block the lesbians from protesting.

Some fantastic mansplaining going on here - gay men telling a lesbian she's doing lesbianism all wrong Hmm

When we entered the event and held our banners up we were approached by people asking why we were there and by some young lesbians that wanted a photo with the banner. We spoke to one person who said we had no place at Pride — we disagreed but it was a civil discussion.

Then came a transgender woman who wanted to stand in front of our banner and shout at us, before leaving to speak from the stage. The crowd were told that we were bigoted and showing intolerance and not welcome at Pride. This had the desired effect, almost no-one approached us after this except to try to make us leave. It is a tactic that is becoming very familiar — to stop people questioning the narrative put forward by transactivists, stifle discussion and cast lesbians and women trying to stand up for their rights as hateful bigots.

After Pride’s opening speeches, some men came over to try to get us to leave, when we refused they attempted to cover our banners with transgender flags. A gay man came over to explain that lesbians have no right to oppress transgender women by refusing to have relationships with them.

A video of that exchange was recorded and even watching it back I can see a man looming over a woman on a mobility scooter trying to intimidate her. Gay men telling lesbians that they are bigoted to want same-sex relationships. A group of large men telling women to be quiet and capitulate to what men believe is right. Who is oppressing who here?

Lesbians are peacefully protesting LGBT prides because they have been excluded from their own communities. Lesbians must either accept that male bodies and attitudes are female or be shunned. I asked one of the angry men where he thought homosexual women should go, he walked off and came back with a group of large men and some flags to try to cover our banners. That he couldn’t answer me was revealing. He accepts that being a homosexual is now transphobic and that my right to a relationship with a woman I love must be sacrificed to gender ideology, but presumably either lacks the empathy to see the issue with that or perhaps the courage to stand up for the rights of homosexuals at a Pride event.

Pride was historically about civil rights, somewhere down the line it became fluff, a party, and an opportunity for corporate entities to show off how inclusive they are. Lesbians cannot join in with this party while even LGBT organisations deem female homosexuality transphobic. Pride marches should be a catalyst for lesbians to draw attention to the prejudice and discrimination they face, even when it comes from within the LGBT community.

More here:
medium.com/@boudiccarises/bradford-pride-2019-getthelout-11e1f8708a13.

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summerofresistance · 02/07/2019 01:17

Similar abuse at the Dyke March in New York City at the weekend:

Indeed Angry Here's a video from New York:

www.facebook.com/sophiarosereck/videos/2584052204959265/

summerofresistance · 02/07/2019 01:12

I bet the kids in this video have no idea they're being homophobic.

It's chilling to see young girls so enthusiastically embracing misogyny, without even being aware that's what they're doing.

2BthatUnnoticed · 02/07/2019 00:32

I stand with my lesbian sisters. The courage I see here, in that small group of brave women. Well done all of you 💚💜

LesbianMeansSomething · 01/07/2019 23:45

Similar abuse at the Dyke March in New York City at the weekend:

www.reddit.com/r/truelesbians/comments/c7npz6/lesbians_harassed_at_the_nyc_dyke_march/

LesbianMeansSomething · 01/07/2019 23:39

I've been to many Pride celebrations in a variety of cities over the past 20 years or so (stopped going now for obvious reasons). At the majority of these, there were conservative Christian protesters along the route waving signs with biblical passages, saying that gay people were going to hell and to repent our sins etc. (Quick google search-ed example: www.flickr.com/photos/rogercracknell/6813905844/ )

And you know what? Generally, the organisers made no reference to them - I can only think of one event where, at the start of the march, we were informed that they would be there but told just to ignore them. And that's what people did. Occasionally, a drag queen would pose for a photo with them to take the piss but I never at any Pride event witnessed any violence against them, never heard Pride organisers try to incite the crowd into violence against them or refer to them as dogs. Never saw any attempts to identify, track them down and have them sacked or beaten up.

Compare that to the way lesbians are treated for defending lesbian sexual orientation at an event that is supposed to be for lesbians. Angry

Aspley · 01/07/2019 21:07

This should be watched by ever politician around.
I don't think such obvious organised cruel homophobia has ever existed in the UK.
Fully endorsed by those who are supposed to exist to defend lesbians.
When will the gay guys wake up. Nothing will change until they do.

NeurotrashWarrior · 01/07/2019 19:54

Lesbians, aka adult Human females, aka women, hold up a banner that says the cotton ceiling = rape

And documented here is the response from several adult men.

Lovely.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 01/07/2019 19:33

Ooh dear. Not a pretty lot for a line up.

PencilsInSpace · 01/07/2019 19:32

A man in womanface* gives the middle finger to lesbians trying to assert their rights and everybody cheers.

Shit stinks.

I'm not 'misgendering' @MNHQ*, 'Ivy Rose' is a drag queen. He is a man.

NeurotrashWarrior · 01/07/2019 19:25

"I am a Lesbian and I Protested Pride. Here’s why…

R0s post on the other thread:

*By SS of ReSisters United UK and Ireland"

(extract)
"Young People Being Misled by Adults

I was later told by an onlooker that this crowd, of mostly teenagers/students, had been encouraged by the male organiser of the event, adult transwomen, who kept their distance, and a drag queen, who themselves did not join in, other than to walk by, pose for a picture. This drag queen, who we understand to be named Ivy Rose, was seen sticking two fingers up at us and then started a chant “Transwomen Matter!” – though nothing about transmen… Isn’t it concerning that they were whispering into the ears of the young people to run across the road, or to chant certain slogans, whilst they, for the most part, stood back? Like sending in the foot soldiers…*

Eaudear · 01/07/2019 19:21

That video is fascinating in lots of different ways.

NeurotrashWarrior · 01/07/2019 19:20

Any parrot pics? I do enjoy wildlife 😉

This is from the film; apparently 'Ivy Rose'. R0 has posted more on the other thread.

Top arrow is to the flicking finger at the lesbian protesters. Bottom arrow to swishy colourful outfit that reminds me of a parrot.

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 01/07/2019 18:11

They just don’t like women. And women-hating women are the very worst.

AnyOldPrion · 01/07/2019 18:01

Lesbian erasure in action. It couldn't be clearer

This was so stark as the video went on.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 01/07/2019 17:37

I hope his mum sees them.

Eaudear · 01/07/2019 17:33

'Pathetically nitpicky' 😂😂😂

Owen will be cringing at these tweets when he is older, I'm embarrassed for him.

NeurotrashWarrior · 01/07/2019 17:24

Shame the baby girls thrown on rubbish dumps in Asia can't be a bit more nit picky about their gender Angry

Lucky222 · 01/07/2019 17:13

EDIT: 'in the thick of the action.' twitter.com/GMancReSisters/status/1145707074384535552

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SunsetBeetch · 01/07/2019 17:10

Ugh. My skin is actually crawling. So lesbians are not welcome, but these creepymen with boundary issues are? It's unreal.

Lucky222 · 01/07/2019 17:05

Thank you for sharing that Roomba. I hope we touched some more people in the crowd that day. One lesbian woman we talked to was very interested and receptive, she was unaware of the issue previously. Another was sat on the steps sending us positive vibes (someone chatted to her briefly.) A straight couple came up afterwards to share their support for free speech and peaceful protest (they can be seen in video, open mouthed at 2 teen boys striding over shouting 'fuck off terfs.')

The crowd was not mainly girls, I would say 50% males, a lot of whom transidentifying (stupid hair, accessories colours etc, because trans really is just the new cool teenage tribe.) Also the initiator of protest was a non trans identifying male, & a self confessed straight male who believes 'a woman is anyone who identifies as a women & they dont have to say or do anything for that to be the case,' informed one of us on twitter that he was in the think of the action.

Transgender ideology is extremely popular amongst straight males as its gives them a lovely pretext to totally colonise and destroy remaining boundaries of WAG. Consolidates their position as dominant/oppressor class. We all know this. Teenage males today have usually been watching extremely violent degrading pornography since early adolescence (smart phones took off in 2008, at same time average age of first exposure to porn plunged.) The research shows even small exposure to pornogrpahy negatively correlates with wane in support for women's equality and rights. It's a perfect storm. :(

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 01/07/2019 17:03

Any parrot pics? I do enjoy wildlife 😉

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