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Feminism. The Elephant in the Room.

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DJLippy · 30/06/2019 21:09

I wondered what people think Feminism's Elephant in the Room was. What is the big taboo that we're not supposed to talk about?

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Juells · 30/06/2019 21:35

Not sure what the question means. The elephant in the room for me is that young women who call themselves feminists think men need to be protected from horrible old women.

Chiochan · 30/06/2019 21:32

wish I was naturally programmed to want to do the hoovering,

my place is an absolute s***le atm

MangoFeverDream · 30/06/2019 21:31

That the wage gap is mostly due to personal choices wrt work-life balance.

Pota2 · 30/06/2019 21:28

oh God please not ‘we are naturally programmed to want to do the hoovering and should just accept it’ again. I am so tired of this shit. These convos seem to be far more frequent over here these days. I have my suspicions as to why that is.

FermatsTheorem · 30/06/2019 21:26

I want it to be multi-coloured patchwork, like Elmer.

But I'm not quite sure where you're coming from on this one, DJ. Do you have something in mind? Or do you want us to have a think and see if anything springs to our minds (in which case, much as I like many of your contributions to this board, this particular thread has a bit of a feel of those ones where some random comes on here and says "Contentious twaddle blah! DISCUSS!" as if we were a sixth form debating society). Hope that doesn't come across as mardy on my part... but I'd like a bit more of a steer on where you're trying to go with this one.

And what sort of feminism? For 3rd wave feminism it would pretty obviously be "Men". The whole thing calls itself feminism, but is built round pandering to men.

Liberal feminism (in the true sense of old fashioned liberal philosophy, not the new, bastardised version which is highly individualistic and probably closer to libertarianism): probably being frightened of biology, as if acknowledging that women run 100m slower than men will bring the whole edifice of feminism tumbling round our ears.

Radical feminism: great at shifting the Overton window, but I think its elephant is possibly that while great at critiquing power, because it consciously eschews playing within the patriarchal power structures that dominate society, it kind of opts out of being able to effect any genuine change. (In that sense, I think for all its flaws, liberal feminism probably gets more accomplished).

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 30/06/2019 21:23

what midge babe said

it's a very uncomfortable idea, and inconvenient if you think that the way men do things is the right way to do things

MIdgebabe · 30/06/2019 21:20

Do pregnancy and related hormones make women more interested in home and child ?

Chiochan · 30/06/2019 21:19

not sure what your refering to?

Chickenish · 30/06/2019 21:14

I did not know there was an elephant. Is it furry like a mammoth, or an interesting colour?

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