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Patient of webberlys commits suicide

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EweSurname · 30/06/2019 09:59

Mum's fury after transgender suicide teen sold hormones from illegal online clinic

A Cambridgeshire mum is calling for a new inquest to question doctors who were found to be offering unregulated hormone treatments online

www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/transgender-treatment-nhs-webberley-jayden-16504026

A heartbroken Cambridgeshire mum of a transgender teenager who took his own life is calling for a second inquest after finding out he had hormone treatment from unregulated online doctors.

Jayden Lowe, 18, paid £30 a month for private therapy after facing a six-year wait with the NHS, his inquest heard.

Married doctors Mike and Helen Webberley have both received an interim suspension by the British Medical Council pending an investigation, after they set up their unregulated gender treatment service.

Jayden received hormone treatment in the post for "a few months" before he stepped in front of a train on September 28, 2018.

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R0wantrees · 02/07/2019 10:26

link to the deleted Transgender Trend response here:
twitter.com/Transgendertrd/status/1145266862198054912

R0wantrees · 02/07/2019 10:24

What did R0 say that warranted deletion?

IMO it was a nuanced, sympathetic & considered response from TransgenderTrend which summarised some of the key points which should be considered in future investigations into how Jayden was potentially failed.

I've no idea why it was deleted, I havent had an email explaining

OldCrone · 02/07/2019 09:59

She reproduced a transgender trend statement

Was it from this article? You can still read it on the Transgender Trend site.

www.transgendertrend.com/surge-referral-rates-girls-tavistock-continues-rise/

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 02/07/2019 09:45

She reproduced a transgender trend statement

It read as factual and respectful to me?

LangCleg · 02/07/2019 09:17

What did R0 say that warranted deletion?

BoreOfWhabylon · 02/07/2019 09:08

Anyone can make a complaint

www.nmc.org.uk/concerns-nurses-midwives/concerns-complaints-and-referrals/

BoreOfWhabylon · 02/07/2019 09:07

Just wondering how to word a complaint to the NMC about the two nurses. I would have thought them conducting assessments on behalf of two suspended doctors wouldn't go down well.

KatvonHostileExtremist · 02/07/2019 08:59

They should. It's shocking.

These poor poor vulnerable children.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 02/07/2019 08:07

ITV should maker a bloody drama about this

EweSurname · 02/07/2019 07:49

Some pushback about the lack of assessment and informed consent in Ireland

twitter.com/exitsign_/status/1145941803033649152

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InsulatedCup · 01/07/2019 20:49

That's it, in a nutshell. Those poor parents. Completely broken - how do the Webberleys sleep at night?

R0wantrees · 01/07/2019 20:35

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DuMondeB · 01/07/2019 20:30

What are the odds of very rapidly hiring two nurses with trans identifying children?

I can only assume the positions were advertised via Mermaids...

SarahTancredi · 01/07/2019 20:21

None of them are even a thing. There are 2 sexes the rest is personality. Its scary how its reached the point of such brainwashing they can literally talk people into defining themselves as utter nonsense.

AlwaysComingHome · 01/07/2019 19:36

What’s the difference between dual gender and bi gender?

If you already know someone ‘ dial gender’ being dual gender too wont Male you special, hence the need for another term for exactly the same made-up thing.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 01/07/2019 19:20

"Ex-spouse" GrinGrinGrin
They do tie themselves up in knots don't they.

Birdsfoottrefoil · 01/07/2019 18:42

Sing I see you asked the same!

Birdsfoottrefoil · 01/07/2019 18:41

What’s the difference between dual gender and bi gender?

R0wantrees · 01/07/2019 18:37

Gender GP & Mermaids charity have demonstrated repeatedly that they do not understand or respect Safeguarding & Child Protection.

They seem inextricably linked, failing vulnerable children & their families.

R0wantrees · 01/07/2019 18:30

summary from Kim Stephenson's speech.
It was very clear how close she & her adult child are.

Her very young son was distressed & being bullied for not conforming to sex based stereotypes.
Her young son showed high levels of emotional distress (including serious self harm age 8)
She googled "my son wants to be a girl" & found US sites
She watched a program about 'trans kids' with her child & they both decided/'recognised' this was what was the 'answer'
She phoned Mermaids & spoke to a 'Mum' who understood
She took information from the internet to 'educate' the GP
She & her child attended Mermaids residential camps
She took her child to US to be medically treated due to her sons' young age (11?) rather than being treated in the UK because "better a daughter than a dead son"

(Mermaids has consistantly signposted parents & chlidren to GenderGP via the website despite prosecutions in UK and both Drs facing professional disciplinaries)

Singasonga · 01/07/2019 18:28

What's the difference between being bi-gender and dual gender?

OldCrone · 01/07/2019 18:23

Also on the 'therapy team' with Gender GP is Jackie Swarbrick.

Jackie is a person-centred counsellor who specialises in working with Transgender, non-binary or gender-questioning people, and spouses, partners, parents and family members of those who have identified as having gender identity issues.

Jackie is in the somewhat unusual position of having significant personal experience of gender identity from various sources; her ex-spouse has transitioned, she has a dual gender child and her husband is bi-gender. This gives her a great deal of empathy and insight into the emotional turmoil and confusion gender variance can create for the individual and wider family from different perspectives. Jackie has a private practice in West Cornwall where she sees adults and young people one to one, and she also works via Skype thereby giving face to face access to those who cannot attend same room sessions for whatever reason.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 01/07/2019 18:22

Open access google doc by the OP, linked on that page confirms:

Very first enquiry made to Gender GP: 14th August 2017
Tablets in hand: 8th February 2018

< 6 months from first contact to popping HRT, on the basis of a couple of phone calls and Drs Webberley receiving upfront payment of a few hundred pounds Shock
(And that's WITH OP's own GP stalling a bit, so it could be even faster.)

Interesting footnote suggests patients are seemingly asked to sign up to agreeing not to leave negative reviews:

Finally if anyone from the Gender GP team is reading this and would like me to remove it please contact me at [redacted email] and I can take it down immediately, however as I have interpreted it, sharing experiences of the service is not prohibited under the terms I signed to.

FloralBunting · 01/07/2019 18:14

So BOTH of the nurses on the GenderGP payroll have trans children, who ‘came out’ before the age of 12.

There will always be support for cult members who remain faithful.

blankcheque · 01/07/2019 18:09

Are there any programmes aimed at teenagers mental health or self acceptance? I think all this need to change is the issue. It's a carrot on a stick. So you change something, it doesn't fix how you feel and you look for something else or become even more depressed.

It's heartbreaking.