Straight Man elected as Labour LGBT Officer 😂

New development on this.

Chickens coming home to roost yet again in Labour.

White person takes BAME role in Labour. A row has erupted after a white woman was chosen over an Asian lady to represent BAME females at a constituency Labour Party (CLP).

twitter.com/afzalmunna/status/1149049473399775233

This guy saying how unfair it is.

It goes without saying that given the long history of the involvement of left wing Jewish people, both middle- class intellectuals and working class, with the Labour Movement and the Labour Party, alienating the Jewish vote was a peak moment.

The peak of that particular summit was the anti- semitic attacks on Luciana Berger - the great- niece of Manny Shinwell.

I expect many of the current idiots in the Labour Party don't even know who he was.

I thought they'd reached peak ridiculous in 2017 when The Owen Jones Momentum Roadshow turned up in the town where the Labour Party was formed to tell the residents they were doing Labour all wrong.

I really didn't forsee how truly insane things would become.

Agree with your last paragraph.

Can the Labour Party get any more ridiculous? Not just this but all the nonsense with Chris Williamson and the allegations in The Times about the control the 4Ms have over Corbyn. Answer- almost certainly.

What's the point of a woman's officer?I was a member of the Labour Party but I never got involved with the local party.
I don't really see what the point is. If it's to promote the female point of view can't female members do that at constituency meetings?

I thought the idea was that they were having a really hard time getting more women involved in politics, particularly standing for election, and it was thought that this kind of role might be a way of bringing women into getting ready for those kinds of roles. And that there were some special permissions needed to do this as they were restricting the post by sex. My understanding was that it seemed to be having some success.
I'm not so sure if the other roles they are talking about are meant to do that too, or more be a point of contact for certain communities or making sure they stay aware of the needs of those groups, or what.

Im not entirely convinced that having all kinds of special positions like this is actually a good idea in the end. I do think the idea of providing an entry for a group that seemed difficult to get involved is a good one. But a bunch of positions that give an extra voice for every currently on trend identity group seems like a power struggle in the making.

Afraid you may be waiting a while for OJ to put his two pence worth in, saw him jollying it up at the green peace stage at Glastonbury a couple of hours ago.

I really wish I'd seen this before I saw him, or maybe not ... it took a lot of persuasion on DH's part for me not to go accuse of him of being a misogynistic wokeprick.

He's protesting in Glasgow against the strip clubs being put under tighter regulation

How unsurprising.

Tweet from Women Make Glasgow about Rohit:

Guess what this guy who hates women is up to.

He's protesting in Glasgow against the strip clubs being put under tighter regulation.

There you go ladies, you don't deserve to be your own political representations, but he'll defend to the hilt your chance to strip for strangers.

twitter.com/GlasgowMake/status/1145073835785560065?s=19

I do not feel sorry for Rohit and his pals. Not in the slightest.

Actions have consequences. Welcome to the real world kid.

I do feel sorry for Rohit and his pals.They can't really say someone has 'not been sincere' in their identification as LGBT, without admitting the whole premise of Self ID is irreparably flawed. Look forward to seeing the ideological knots tied to get out of this logical fallacy, though.

Not with Corbyn in charge. He doesn't strike me as the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Good posts Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g and Prawnofthepatriarchy.

I wonder if labour see the problem and if so, are they are going to do anything about it?

Thanks, R0wan! Will read that now.

This by Shelley Charlesworth
www.transgendertrend.com/no-outsiders-queering-primary-classroom/

I haven't been closely following what's going on with the Birmingham protests and the No Outsiders (is that what it's called?) teaching materials. Can anyone link to a good, clear summary?

Like almost everybody here, I want children to learn in school, if they don't learn it at home, that some people are same-sex attracted and that's absolutely fine. I want them to be told that gender stereotypes are meaningless and that being gender nonconforming is not only not a problem, it's positively to be encouraged. I would also like children from quite an early age to learn about bodily autonomy as a precursor to more explicit teaching about consent in a sexual context when they're older.

I absolutely don't want young children told that you pick your own gender and that biological sex is irrelevant.

I can't ally myself with religious fundamentalists who have backwards notions about gender roles. But I can't go with the pomo crew either.

How can we get across that objection to gender theory isn't hate speech and isn't driven by right-wing, fundamentalist groups?

Bloody hell it's been staring us all in the face and we missed it.

Garfield must be a furrie 🐈

There's a video on that thread, Threehoursfromhome, that clarifies things a bit. A Muslim bloke speaks of the stuff being taught in schools. He doesn't focus on the LGB elements. What really seems to bother him is the gender stuff. Kids are getting the message that they can change sex. They're coming home from school confused and upset.

Again it's the constant woke focus on the T that's screwing things up for the LGB and alienating working class voters. It's an attempt to force social change without gaining allies and acceptance. Same as those Goldsmiths students in Deptford (I think it was) who had no idea how irrelevant their abstractions about gender were to the people they were supposed to be helping.

I say working class but of course it's not limited by class. I'm middle class and I've got no time for it either.

Parents who, whatever their faith and personal opinion, understand that LGB rights are the law are finding trans ideology a step far too far. And if my DC were of an age for this stuff I'd withdraw them from this dangerous nonsense without hesitation.

All very tangled.

A few years ago Labour would have elected a gay man or a lesbian to be the LGB officer.

They would have elected a woman (cunty type) to be Women's Officer.

They would have elected somebody who was clearly black, mixed race or from another minority ethnic group to be the BAME rep.

Do they have a Disability rep too? If so, I'd expect that post to be open only to people with a disability.

A trans person could easily have been elected to another officer job on his/her own merits, or as the Disability or BAME rep if they qualified. The numbers were so tiny I don't suppose anybody thought they needed special representation.

All done to try to dilute the over-representation of straight white men in politics. I'm not a member of any political party but I'd be surprised if one benefit of this system wasn't that it guarantees the rep a chance to speak/report at meetings, and for that brief period the SWM have to shut up.

So far, so fine.

But then Labour followed Stonewall and LGB became LGBT and now LGBTQI+++ or whatever it is, and self-identification, acceptance without exception and all the other Pomo nonsense is de rigeur.

It was obvious from that point on there were going to be problems. Women have been trying to point this out for years now and have not only been ignored, but disciplined and expelled from the party.

So here we are. Anybody is what they say they are. Woman is a feeling in the head. Man likewise. It's bigoted to concern yourself with someone else's biology. Anybody can identify as queer, and even though nobody knows what it means it has the gratifying effect of elevating you into the most oppressed group on earth. (It seems to be a synonym for humourless.)

I assume the next step is that anybody can self-identify as BAME or disabled. Rachel Dolezal put the former back for a bit, but give it time.

The hypocrisy and muddled thinking on display here is hilarious but it's also really, really depressing. What's happened to our politicians? Why are they all so thick?

hypocritical wanktrumpets
Come on, own up, own up. That tweet was by one of youse, wasn't it?

As far as I can tell, Joshua Garfield IS the "str8 white man" Rohit is complaining about.

Judging by the twitter thread, there is a LOT more going on than just one little officer election!

This Twitter thread from another member of Newham CLP appears to explain some of the context. It was tweeted before the vote at the AGM took place.

twitter.com/JoshuaGarfield/status/1144228241537929218

There appears to be ongoing issues within the local party. These have included allegations of homophobic behaviour. There are also allegations of racism, anti-Semitism and misogyny. It appears LGBT members may have stayed away from the AGM because of this behaviour. In their absence, the new candidate won.

I imagine any investigation will focus on whether members were intimidated out of attending and if so whether that had an effect on the result. Given a number of prominent Labour party members who might normally be expected to comment on this case have not, I suspect there's a general bar about mentioning it on social media, especially given the current row over Chris Williamson and anti-Semitism within the party more broadly.

What's the point of a woman's officer?

I was a member of the Labour Party but I never got involved with the local party.
I don't really see what the point is. If it's to promote the female point of view can't female members do that at constituency meetings?

The Woman on Wednesday man got suspended by Labour:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3256772-Guess-how-I-got-suspended-from-the-Labour-Party

Can anyone tell me, is this the kind of position that would not be filled if there wasn't a member of the community to fill it, as I believe the women's officer position is?

The vote was by some people at a meeting, as far as I can decipher. The Right people all flounced in outrage at the Wrong people so the wrong lot all got to vote and the right lot didn't.

It's all very JPF.