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transgender hate crime

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DuploTower · 27/06/2019 06:52

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48756370

Transgender hate crime up by 81%

I thought someone else would have posted this as it's practically headline on BBC.

This is sad. Nobody should be being abused.

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OrchidInTheSun · 27/06/2019 07:18

They should rename it thought crime

SarahTancredi · 27/06/2019 07:14

Wouldnt it be interesting to see what hate crime stats against women were. Except conveniently sex isnt a protected characteristic.

And not instantly knowing some six fit 6 person with a beard making zero "effort" at all is stilla woman still constitutes a hate crime Hmm

"Terfs" get death and rape threats
Where the fuck are the police then. Hounding women that's where....

GeorgeFayne · 27/06/2019 07:13

I'd like to know more details about what is included as a "hate crime." Liking a limerick on Twitter? "Misgendering" by a clerk in a store? Refusing to wax male genitalia?

InTheHeatofLisbon · 27/06/2019 07:13

I read that Brody Jenner is being castigated for referring to Bruce, before transition, as he. To be clear, this is him talking about his father before any kind of transition or change of name.

If misgendering wasn't considered a hate crime I might take these statistics more seriously. But given that my children and I have been subjected to disablist abuse and attacks bad enough that when the police did nothing we felt compelled to move house, I think that considering misgendering a hate crime is extremely self indulgent.

Of course nobody should be abused and attacked, but it's very, very interesting that attacks (both verbal and physical) on women because they're women aren't being recorded in the same way.

Why is that?

GirlDownUnder · 27/06/2019 07:09

I think hate crime should be better defined, so we can actually see what type of hate crime is being committed, by who, and to whom. We can then work on solving the issue. The BCC report says

What is hate crime?
A hate crime is defined as "any criminal offence which is perceived, by the victim or any other person, to be motivated by a hostility or prejudice" based on one of five categories: religion, faith or belief; race, ethnicity or nationality; sexual orientation; disability; or gender identity.

I think the word perceived is problematic. Do any of these crimes get further action from the police ie how many hate crimes are prosecuted? Are the BBC including hate incidence in these numbers?

What do the % look like for other hate crimes?

The report would have been much more robust if the BBC had included the stats. they are referencing.

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 27/06/2019 07:07

Think this is one where the break-down of the data would be useful.

We already know that retweeting limericks “counts”.

AyeRobot · 27/06/2019 07:07

I'm still working out what to say so I don't get banned.

Fibbke · 27/06/2019 07:05

In a world where using the wrong pronoun is a hate crime, these statistics don't surprise me.

frankexchangeofviews · 27/06/2019 07:04

From the article :

‘West Yorkshire Police and South Yorkshire Police saw reporting of transgender hate crimes more than treble over three years.’

Hmmmmmmm. Hate crime/ thought crime : ...potato / potata as far as WYP and SYP are concerned

Gone2far · 27/06/2019 06:57

I saw this and was wondering what others thought too. The trouble is, I'm automatically cynical about anything the BBC ( and Guardian) publish on this subject.
Personally, I would like to see a definition of hate crime and a breakdown of the figures into types of offences.

DuploTower · 27/06/2019 06:52

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48756370

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