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J K Rowling

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GrumpyCatLives · 24/06/2019 08:51

J K Rowling now follows Magdalen Berns on Twitter!

This is amazing. Rowling is one of the only people that could end this madness easily.

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HandsOffMyRights · 25/06/2019 09:25

If you need a chuckle, then read this:

twitter.com/caganerx/status/1143425943484149761?s=20

KatvonHostileExtremist · 25/06/2019 08:55

Following Julie Bindel is a marvellous middle finger to the bullies.

You can't touch her, you know, and bullying and harassing her is making the grown ups notice.

KatvonHostileExtremist · 25/06/2019 08:51

How do they get away with calling women "filth"

Well I'm sure that balanced and convincing argument will help JK to realise the error of her ways.

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nolongersurprised · 25/06/2019 08:39

Pansey (the slythrin girl), bellatrix and unbridge are bad and ugly.

Both Bellatrix and Syrius have their former great good looks referenced a few times. With both cases it’s explained that Askaban has robbed them of their beauty, not their respective moral choices.

CandidPeel · 25/06/2019 08:30

She is following Julie Bindel now Grin

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DuchessSybilVimes · 25/06/2019 06:23

Hermione isn't meant to be beautiful but she's not un-pretty either. She had big front teeth until she sneakily got madam pomfrey to shrink them, and bushy hair, but that's it.

JKR has said that all the characters were cast too pretty, and that she wrote them as awkward, odd looking kids. But that's film for you!

Pansy Parkinson was played by a very pretty actress in the later films. And Narcissa is described as very beautiful, yet definitely a baddy!

Gingerkittykat · 25/06/2019 00:32

I'm sitting chuckling to myself remembering a conversation from earlier today.

Purple haired, Harry Potter mad DD is sitting in the passenger seat scrolling through her phone "It's looks like JK Rowling is a fucking TERF"

Me "why"

Her: "She's following (whoever) on Twitter"

Me "giggles, that's brilliant"

Me " it's a pity I still hate her for her pro unionist antics during the independence referendum, I don't care if she is a TERF I can't forgive her for that"

It will be interesting to see how this develops. Lots of her die hard fans will be like my DD and grew up with Harry Potter and be raging at her right now, mind you many more will be nodding in agreement. I think if she believes in something she will stand by her beliefs (see Indyref 2014 for details)

(and my blue haired, formerly non binary, ultrawoke DD regularly tells me I'm a TERF who needs to get off Mumsnet! We have also had some interesting discussions on the Gender Recognition Bill lately)

ZebrasAreBras · 25/06/2019 00:25

I love it, Grinitch Grin

I'm a massive JK fan, in case you couldn't guess, and Ineedacupoftea yes, I agree, Narcissa had such a powerful part at the end. As did Molly. That JK interview brought tears to my eyes when I first heard it.

GrinitchSpinach · 25/06/2019 00:13

Zebras, as the mother of a daughter who has (attached) for her light switch, I [heart] your entire comment.

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Ineedacupofteadesperately · 25/06/2019 00:06

I actually love the female characters in the Harry Potter books. I think they do fall into mostly good or mostly bad but that's true of all characters in the world (Snape IMO is the only one who's a bit of both really) and is also true of a lot of kids fiction.

I love that there is this powerful force of motherly love running through the whole story. Really recommend watching the videos posted by Zebras - thank you, it was great to hear in JK's own words the intention behind some of the female characters and their story. I always thought what happened with Narcissa at the end was one of the most powerful parts of the books. Narcissa's love for Draco overcomes her fear of Voldemort.

If you watch the video, right at the beginning she says something along the lines of how she couldn't have simply switched Harry to be a female character because you can't just put on a dress and change gender (or something like that) - she's conflating sex and gender there but I agree with the general sentiment...

HugsAreMyDrugs · 24/06/2019 23:57

It's actually implied several times throughout the books that Hermione is pretty.

AnotherLass · 24/06/2019 23:34

"surely Hermione is pretty AND clever?"

Nah Warner Bros added the pretty bit. She isn't pretty in the books. I really liked that personally - that a girl can be valued even without being pretty. I felt seriously let down by the films making her into another stunning glamour model type

Riverside85 · 24/06/2019 23:07

Nonibaloni There’s absolutely loads of physical description of all the male characters.

KatvonHostileExtremist · 24/06/2019 22:57

Sorry, that was at barracker's brilliance

KatvonHostileExtremist · 24/06/2019 22:56

Snort Grin

BlackForestCake · 24/06/2019 22:55

I know almost nothing about Harry Potter but surely Hermione is pretty AND clever?

CassianAndor · 24/06/2019 22:50

😂😂😂

littlbrowndog · 24/06/2019 22:21

😍barracker

DuchessSybilVimes · 24/06/2019 22:05

Barracker GrinGrinGrin

Barracker · 24/06/2019 21:53

However, she is not following Vulvamort.

This is obviously an oversight.

Grin
DuchessSybilVimes · 24/06/2019 20:56

Oh thank goodness. I saw the thread title earlier but didn't click because I was terrified of JKR having said something woke and shit. So, so pleased. I love her and it would break my heart if she jumped on the trans train.

PencilsInSpace · 24/06/2019 20:50

Sorry GrumpyCatLives, that was off topic I know.

On topic, I'm pleased if JKR is at last finding her feet a bit and the more women who overcome their fear and speak up the better.

PencilsInSpace · 24/06/2019 20:46

I've now read more of Bern's tweets and she strikes me as very conspiracy-minded.

Why? Please provide examples.

My tolerance for vague unsubstantiated smears against courageous feminist women has worn extremely thin of late.

MrsOnions · 24/06/2019 20:26

RedTrek I can confirm JK sends me messages via my cats

I see she’s following Fionne Orlander too. Which is very nice.

GrumpyGran8 · 24/06/2019 19:28

Thanks for the link, PencilsInSpace. I'll read it later.
I've now read more of Bern's tweets and she strikes me as very conspiracy-minded. I already follow loads of level-headed GC women, so I can afford not to follow her.
I know every movement has its share of tinfoil-hatters - I'm an SNP member and follow many Indy accounts! - but I get worried when I see this mentality creeping into feminism.

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