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Police called to home of Boris and Carrie Symonds

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Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 21/06/2019 21:26

Guardian link here

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/21/police-called-to-loud-altercation-at-boris-johnsons-home

This isn't some long ago "oh it was in the past" incident (not that that would make it any better).

This was the police being called to what sounds very like a domestic incident last friday. Right in the middle of the campaign of Boris " the favourite" Johnson to become Prime Minister.

What the actual fuck?

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merrymouse · 22/06/2019 09:46

She is only 31. I think her career is more likely to be harmed by being in his shadow.

merrymouse · 22/06/2019 09:43

otherwise there is the very real danger of a Corbyn- led government and that should frighten us all.

The difficulty is that the Conservatives are no longer seen as a safe pair of hands that prioritises business. Both main parties seem to be led by men promising to ‘burn it all’.

I am not a Corbyn fan, but would find it difficult to explain why Johnson is better. It’s very difficult to paint Corbyn as a massive threat while presenting ‘No Deal’ as a viable option. To many people it’s bonkers vs. bonkers.

TimeLady · 22/06/2019 09:42

Why not? Boris seems to have far more enemies than he does friends, esp in the MSM.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 22/06/2019 09:39

the thing is, her career and personal life are all tied together now aren't they? LTB-ing won't be a great career move. not what she needed at this juncture, I'll be bound.

TimeLady · 22/06/2019 09:35

What a beautiful successful young woman like her sees in a late-middle-aged man like him is beyond me. Her response to this will be interesting, given that the public are willing her on the LTB.

ThePurported · 22/06/2019 09:33

Hard leave voters, don't exactly like feminism and yearn for an era where 'women knew their place'. So this actually is good pr in the most important circles, for Johnson.

Yup. I had the pleasure of listening to a Conservative brextremist rant about this and the Mark Field incident last night. "This is what happens when women..."
AARRGGHH

merrymouse · 22/06/2019 09:27

Many couples argue ,esp if the have a bit too much to drink and the pressure is probably on at the moment

I don’t want them to be PM either. ‘Drink made me do it’ isn’t an excuse that a potential PM should be using.

TimeLady · 22/06/2019 09:26

The Tory party membership, including its women members, is so fixated on achieving Brexit as as soon as possible, that it will ignore just about any scandal if taking notice of it meant picking a Remain-voting leadership candidate in Hunt.

That is true, but it's more nuanced than that. Hunt has the Sword of Damocles (aka Farage and the Brexit party) dangling over his head if he doesn't deliver, and that may give Tory Brexiteer members (and I am one of them) the confidence to vote for him. He's by far the more sensible choice...except for his his Remain-voting credentials. May said she'd deliver, but her heart wasn't really in it; my concern is that Hunt is cut from the same cloth.

Brexit needs to take place asap to neutralise Farage and his party, otherwise there is the very real danger of a Corbyn- led government and that should frighten us all. Self-ID and the EU would be the least of our worries.

FancyRibbon · 22/06/2019 09:23

OMFG what is happening here?! In 2019, how can such a man have news stories like this about him and STILL be the main candidate for the highest political office in the UK. Shock HE MUST RESIGN, NOW.

Conservative voters are about to set the tone of our future government. This is a highly unstable time of national social division and financial precariousness caused by Brexit, climate change and increasingly unequal life chances- just to mention a few of the huge national issues to deal with. We will always need a government formed of calm, fair, trustworthy, capable, intelligent grown up women and men. Whatever their politics are.

And just as Coyoacan says from her example in Mexico of having women-abusing presidents or those suspected of doing even worse to women- (holy shit!)- compared to finally having a President who is a decent person. The difference is massive. Leadership absolutely does matter.

Is this shameful man who we want to represent us? Is Boris Johnson who we are?

PerkingFaintly · 22/06/2019 09:17

Oh god, I had no idea Carrie Symonds was one of the women assaulted by Warboys. So brave of her to testify.

Jess Phillips was tweeting supportively last night. I think she's got this spot on.

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I have just heard the Boris news, please please let's not make demands of Carrie Symonds, please please don't harrass her or expect things from her. I can't say more than that really, he owes an explanation as he wants to be PM she owes us nothing.

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 22/06/2019 09:02

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BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 22/06/2019 08:58

oh god. brave woman to tell her story Flowers , wishing her strength

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dottiedodah · 22/06/2019 08:47

I wasnt trying to minimise the situation, and obviously do not feel that pissed up rowing with much smaller partner is normalised in my world!!.TBH I hadnt read it all in depth so didnt get all the facts .My point was that it was detracting from the issues of being PM ,which looks more and more likely (although who knows JH could overtake at the last minute!)

LizzieSiddal · 22/06/2019 08:46

Anyway, there's an ex-colleague (Sonia Purnell) of Johnson's being interviewed on Radio 4 now and she's saying that when she shared an office with him she was scared of his temper.

He’s a bully isn’t he. What a great trait for the PM of our country.Hmm

LangCleg · 22/06/2019 08:41

Hard leave voters, don't exactly like feminism and yearn for an era where 'women knew their place'. So this actually is good pr in the most important circles, for Johnson.

And if not quite "good", at least irrelevant.

The Tory party membership, including its women members, is so fixated on achieving Brexit as as soon as possible, that it will ignore just about any scandal if taking notice of it meant picking a Remain-voting leadership candidate in Hunt.

dancingcamper · 22/06/2019 08:33

Lovely that pissed up rowing with your much smaller partner is normalised in your world

This, many times over. She's now getting the message loud and clear that what was recorded is completely normal and nothing to worry about. If she moves in to number 10 with him she's pretty much locked into that relationship until he's no longer prime minister. How much social pressure would she be under to stay with him?

Fleetheart · 22/06/2019 08:33

Of course it’s unimaginable with Theresa May, or David Cameron, or Tony Blair or actually anyone with any maturity. A fucked up private life is not a good springboard for leading a country.

Fleetheart · 22/06/2019 08:31

It’s the fact that on the actual day when he got the good news that he will most likely be the next PM, he was not relaxed and calm, he was drinking and shouting and things were being smashed. Isn’t very reassuring for us is it?

Juells · 22/06/2019 08:30

Yesterday (or rather the night before) provided an astonishing insight into how entitled some males are. They happened to be Tory males, but that's only because they're the focus at the moment.

KTara · 22/06/2019 08:29

According to the reports, she asked him several times to leave her flat. He did not do this but carried on trying to ‘calm her down’ - insinuates she was hysterical whereas he should simply have left the situation at her request. He has enough money to check into a hotel.

And I agree entirely with comments that this situation is unimaginable with Theresa May.

When I was married, I ended up very shouty. The relationship was abusive and controlling but he also turned things round on me when I questioned or argued back that I was being aggressive and various other things. It was horrible in so many ways. Even now, it is impossible to question anything to him without it being turned back on me times ten. For me shouting was and is a panic reaction, and I need to remove myself from the situation to calm down. Usually to have a good cry for ten minutes. So the thing that stands out here is that she was asking him to go and he was not, and she was getting more and more distressed.

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 22/06/2019 08:23

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QuentinWinters · 22/06/2019 08:23

Many couples don't argue to the point where theneighbours call the police.....I have had to call the police for a neighbour before and it was a hard decision because you gave to see your neighbours every day and potentially you've got involved in something that's none of your business and embarrasses everyone.
The fact the neighbours felt they needed to call the police shows this was more than a standard argument between couples.
I hope Carrie is OK.

dottiedodah · 22/06/2019 08:20

The fact that BJ and his GF had a late night row is not really news.Many couples argue ,esp if the have a bit too much to drink and the pressure is probably on at the moment.I am more interested in his plans for our country TBH!.

nauticant · 22/06/2019 08:18

Anyway, there's an ex-colleague (Sonia Purnell) of Johnson's being interviewed on Radio 4 now and she's saying that when she shared an office with him she was scared of his temper.