Police called to home of Boris and Carrie Symonds

Caucho I reckon the neighbour's entitled to complain about the shit he's getting, particularly if he's someone who's led a comparatively quiet and Twitter-free life up till now - he'll have had no idea how vicious it can be. If he had known in advance, he'd probably have stayed schtum.

This isn’t a Labour v Tory thing anyway as the winner of this is between a Tory and another Tory. Boris will be a disaster but too late now. Can’t understand why he had the majority of support from his colleagues knowing he’s useless. Ok the argument will be he’s popular and help us win but am not buying that personally. Maybe I’m biased myself but can’t see him winning votes from the opposition or from floating voters but then I’ll say the same thing about Corbyn.

Next election will be between top completely useless and shite political party leaders

In the spirit of seeking agreement Caucho, to me the value of this getting into the public eye is that no matter how bad Johnson is, and even though he shows himself to be worse than we thought, for some people all can be overlooked so long as he delivers a sufficiently hard Brexit.

Best to have it on record because I don't think it will age well at all.

I’m not shooting the messenger. I’m saying he’s a crybaby pretending it’s nothing to do with his politics and wants to be left alone to a private life. It was never going to be possible to remain anonymous as there are a limited number of next door neighbours. Like I said just be honest about it. I don’t like Boris either so might have done the same thing myself without pretending to be victim and acting entirely noble

If it means Boris loses it’s a result but it’s now down to the Conservative party membership and can’t see them switching. The Tory MPs are to blame for voting him through when many know how incompetent he is through their personal experiences

What do you mean, Whosorrynow, going to turn us into a laughing stock? We already are. He's the icing on the cake we're supposed to be having and eating.

He's going to turn us into a laughing stock Banana Republic just like trump's doing to the USA... We're going to have a feral prime minister scrapping with his missus in public🤦‍♀️

Caucho, you're in favour of shooting the messenger?

I don't give a shit where the recording was sent. If someone serves the public interest then I'm really not bothered if posters on here can look down their noses at them.

To be fair it’s all over all the papers so makes little difference but gifted the Guardian the scoop

(Except on GC issues, that is.)

TLDR he was entitled to record it. Entitled to send to papers. Is now being a crybaby about him being portrayed politically and pleading for privacy. He’s lying almost as much as Boris

The anti-Graun sentiment is showing here, and it's understandable. But for all its faults, bias, deficiencies and the fact that it unaccountably still publishes articles by LOJ, it's still the go-to paper of the chattering classes, who'd no more give succour to The Times or The Torygraph than they would to The Daily Mail.

If you read his Guardian article I’m just saying it’s a joke. Ok public interest. But to pretend he’s completely not political will be recognised by anyone with sense as a complete lie. Funny he didn’t send it to the Telegraph or Times and randomly came up with the Guardian. I don’t actually mind if he did record and share it because he hates either Boris specifically or the Conservative party. But the whining about him saying he’s not political and is now hating the press coverage is pathetic and no rational person believes him. Just be honest and open dickhead

It's absolutely astonishing to see people overlook the public interest aspect of this. But having followed this on here and on twitter, and seen the deflections, the false narratives, the victim blaming, the blind eye turning, the tribalism, and all the rest, I'm no longer surprised.

Overall this has been really instructive. An insight into what we can expect from a Johnson premiership attended by Brexit-blind cheerleaders in the media.

Caucho
No agenda there in recording and sending stuff to newspapers. Can’t stand Boris anyway and would love him to lose but can’t see that happening even with this controversy as most people will think the neighbour acted like a dick
In almost all circs I'd agree with you but I'm not convinced this case isn't exceptional on account of Johnson's candidacy for PM. I don't blame the neighbour for thinking the public had a right to know. Obvs you don't agree, and I'm not sure either that we have the right to know any of the behind-closed-doors details. But everything overheard in the street or recorded on a cellphone from next door? Those noises weren't private in the first place.

By the way I’m not claiming Boris might be a terrible man both personally and professionally but the person who recorded and pinged it to the papers immediately is being completely disengous thinking that it’s unfair to question his motives. He’s not a politicial at all and then pleads and begs he should be left alone by the media and is entitled to a private life. Well so is idiot Boris. Ok maybe he was worried but when the police said nothing to see he suddenly does what he does. The bloke just needs to own it now rather than pretend as no one believes him

The latest story from the person who reported it makes him sound like a weasel though. Reported a commotion rightly and the police attended and said all is good. Then he decides to send recordings he made to the Guardian. And is how complaining about people questioning his motives and pretending to be completely non-political. Yeah right mate. No agenda there in recording and sending stuff to newspapers. Can’t stand Boris anyway and would love him to lose but can’t see that happening even with this controversy as most people will think the neighbour acted like a dick

I'm not sure what you're getting at. I'm guessing she supports him and his political aims. Just because she's a woman doesn't mean she's not as idiotic as him

If Carrie pauses for a moment to catch her breath (or is allowed to), she may well see that she has an opportunity here. It's not the opportunity that she thought was coming her way when she took up with Johnson, and it's one that could take her life in an unexpected direction, but it's an opportunity nonetheless. If she ditches him and aligns herself with the forces of reason, she could be immensely powerful in the coming weeks and months.
If she allows herself to succumb to the inevitable pressure to stand by her man and minimise what happened, or even take the blame, then in fairly short order she'll be quietly dumped and her career ended. She's potentially collateral damage in this and she needs to get in front of it asap.

Apart form anything else a fair proportion of the police force presumably also think Boris is a dangerous buffoon and would not cover for him

MockerstheFeManist in fairness the police force as a whole has moved on since then and I hope and believe most individual officers have too. I believe when they went there was nothing of concern remaining.

Boris Johsons's minders have gone well out of their way to hide him from the media and from the public to avoid yet another fiasco. Even with their efforts ultimately they've failed.

The interesting thing is the reaction of his supporters. They are deep into denial, "fake news!", and vicious counter-attacks. The Johnson Project is a remarkably thin-skinned and fragile entity.

Appalled at Allison Pearson too. How do people think the police get proof about domestic violence? If I was screaming and shouting at my h, I’d be happy if the police were called to help. Bunch of apologists.

What I hate is other MPs making excuses for this and minimising it. especially James Cleverly. Never was a name less apt.

Of course it’s in the public interest if Johnson and his gf argue so violently that police have to be called! That is not normal behaviour, ffs.

And the Met tried to cover it up too. Disgraceful.