Police called to home of Boris and Carrie Symonds

Lizzie ive seen some of that Someone on Twitter took screenshots

What merrymouse said.

The protesters are idiots.

What male violence?

If you read The Sunday Times today, there are several articles for different people, who have witnessed his violence. Kicking things, screaming at people and once thumping a table so hard, he thought he’s broken his hand.

He’s a thug.

She’s been told to fuck off to Kensington or Chelsea as she’d be more comfortable there. She’s not welcome in Camberwell apparently. I’m only saying what the protestors are and doubt the whole of Camberwell feel the same way but can understand if she feels uncomfortable living there now and having her next door neighbours there

@stucknoue In the case of housing association tenants, they are routinely asked to record any noise issues. Not just to keep a diary.

That last post was to @Whosorrynow and @KTara

But those protesters should realize the flat is owned by Carrie.

Completely agree.

Bel Mooney then gave an example by writing an example from a letter she received from a man. But having worked for a sex chatline it sounded remarkably like the cuckold fantasy letters i used to get. Im not saying thats deffo the case but it was almost word for word.

She can’t even go back to her own home now because of wanker protestors outside. That’s a nice way to treat a woman who some people are saying was subject to domestic abuse

of course women can be abusive, but men have far greater opportunity to abuse and dominate women

KTara this months Good Housekeeping has an article about coercive control written by Bel Mooney Halfway through it thats what she said. That women can be abusers too.

But she does give the stats for it and its a LOT less.

she was asking Boris Johnson to leave. He was not doing this

Yes, this is the thing that stands out.

Well, he was an idiot to leave his wife. Whether she will take him back is another matter, of course.

I can't stand Boris Johnson. But there isn't any evidence that he's violent towards women. Think of the number of ex-wives and girlfriends he has: none of them has ever said he was violent towards them. This sounds very much like a case of two people having an extremely heated domestic argument.

I wouldn't be entirely surprised if the reason he hasn't said anything so far is that he's considering his options and wondering if he can persuade his ex-wife to take him back.

Marie-Claire French (I think that is her name) a psychologist in Erosion of the Soul makes the point that victims of domestic abuse have two choices - to submit or to fight back.

One could add also the choice to leave, but that is not always straightforward. Carrie Symonds was in her own flat, she was asking Boris Johnson to leave. He was not doing this. She hence had two choice - to submit to what he wanted or to fight back. One might assume (I was not there) that the shouting etc was her fighting back - she had after all asked him to leave.

As soon as women fight back, it becomes seen as a high conflict relationship rather than domestic abuse, but let’s look at the power structures - powerful white male known to have a temper problem and be volatile others have backed this up; younger woman who is asking him to leave her flat. There may not have been violence but there was certainly disregard for her.

I really do not believe there is a case for arguing that CS was the aggressor here, but well done for getting in with the ‘women are abusers too’ trope likeamillpond

Interesting the only four comments that have so far passed through moderation agree with Elizabeth Day. Lots of down-voting, but I'm convinced much of the Daily Mail comment section is driven by trolls.

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7170991/ELIZABETH-DAY-Dont-tell-male-rage-just-private-matter.html

Whatever she may have done in the past to promote this thug (Boris) - suddenly, she has been exposed to his male violence.

What male violence?
Wasn't she the one who was shrieking and throwing glasses and plates around?
Women can be thugs as well and they are perfectly capable of being violent towards men.

A lot of domestic violence is done by women. It's just more hidden.

@RedToothBrush fab post but i and others were calling for Leveson 2 because of how the neighbours are being hounded by the right wing press.

After seeing how they have been hounded, how many other neighbours would report now. I wouldnt In fact i havent reported mine.

Ok they arent famous but the druggie and his girlfriend underneath have arguments where they throw things around and it sounds sometimes like they are going to come through the floor. I havent reported because i dont trust the HA or the police to protect and as im on a housing estate we tenants get seen as "all the same"

So slightly different but the bottom line is when you see the police take this line it dosnt instill confidence to report.

I suspect that Boris neighbours will now ignore in future now they have seen the outcome if you do report.

Boris will soon have the police all dancing to his tune and doing his bidding

Police denied all knowledge even when given the incident number. Only admitted it when the registration numbers of police cars attending were supplied.

I agree that we've got ourselves our very own Donald Trump but how is this Borald Trumpson going to go down the UK?
I think things will play out differently here compared to the USA

You could perhaps argue that Johnson's private life was irrelevant if his pitch to be PM were policy based, but it isn't. His own team have kept him away from the public because he doesn't have a grasp of the detail and is trying to be all things to all people.

His promise to leave on the 31st of October is a gambit to get the support of the ERG. He can't actually explain what he would do in the event of 'No Deal'.

If he has no policies or expertise, all that is left is his character, so his private life is highly relevant.

It's also not as though the Conservatives have ever held back from dragging their opponents' private lives through the mud, or as if they will hesitate to attack Corbyn's private life at the next general election.

Also, the contortions some people will go to deflect criticism from BJ...

Absolutely! But why?

He is a joke and will just bring shame and embarrassment to our country. He doesn't even seem to have any particular acumen for anything -other than naked personal ambition. He'll say whatever he thinks he needs to; and then change his story a week later.

Carrie is in PR, do we really think that she would allow a domestic to be overheard by the neighbours? Sorry but sceptical and cynical if it's possible to be both at the same time

Except life is not one long PR performance, even for someone who does that for a living. It is real.

That a Tory party looks set to elect this buffoon speaks volumes about the degenerate state we've reached in society. We know that lots of powerful men have done bad or ill judged things, behind the scenes in the past, but at least attempted to present a dignified public front.

That the man is amoral; chaotic; self focused and without clearly held or passionate belief about anything does not bode well. We've got ourselves our own Donald Trump.

It is a sign of the times - like the end points in a civilisation when everything goes to shit.