Years and Years - some light relief

So the programme is suggesting that in the future people might be able to present however they want, but they still won't be able to change sex. Have the genderists been complaining how regressive this is yet?

Yes, I noticed that they referred to Lincoln as 'he'

What I did notice was when Bethany was going through her experience with the cowboy operators when her friend's eye transplant went wrong they mentioned similar cowboy operations taking place in the 2000s with transgenderism and something else similar taking place in the 1990s.

I can't remember exactly what they said but it hinted at fads and carelessness with people cashing in on them

Yes, it was clear that there was no issue referring to Lincoln as a boy whilst Lincoln presented as a girl. Perhaps the message is that when the shit really hits the fan the nonsense of pronouns and caring about what people wear is not a real issue.

I love dystopia (though this one actually gave me nightmares) and I generally liked RTD and think he's pretty sane. I choose to interpret the fact that he had a major storyline about 'transhumans' (eg. people who want to become digitised and identify as part digital) as him gently parodying the current identity politics mess (NOT just the gender id thing but all of it) - but who knows?

Having said that, I thought the Lincoln storyline was a bit 'let's have one character in this that could be described as trans' - but as OP has said, he's not defined as trans or as female. He just wears what he likes. Fine.

So the possible 'top surgery' in the final episode really threw me.

However, I don't think it was a huge part of the series. I think RTD was trying to tick some inclusion boxes, show how this sort of thing will be perfectly accepted (even by nonagenarians apparently) in another decade. Fairly predictable. But I enjoyed the series as a whole and I didn't find it detracted.

I was a bit confused by the Lincoln storyline (although it wasn't strictly a storyline he was mostly just there in the background).

He started off presenting as male until his environmental activist Aunt dressed him as girl to sneak into a bring your daughters to work day for a bit of espionage. After that he just kept the ribbons and the dresses but it wasn't specifically addressed whether he identified as trans.

It was positive in one sense that boys can wear dresses and ribbons and still use male pronouns etc... but the starting point with the Aunt made it seem forced. I was slightly confused as to what point was trying to be made.

YES that struck me. Especially in the last episode where he was extremely feminised with a dress and I think breasts and was still called Lincoln.

It was an excellent series, although gave me the chills.

Dr Harrop was moaning about the first episode. Because he's a dick. Anything he doesn't like is ok with me

But have the TRA been attacking Russel T Davies for "misgendering" ? After the flack the guy who wrote My Brother's Name is Jessica got for misgendering- I'm surprised Russel's not being hounded out of the BBC.

I was waiting for this

Wasn't sure whether to watch this or not.

I struggle with dystopian type stuff. I can find it quite disturbing and it plays on my mind.

Still trying to build up to watching Season 2 of Handmaid's Tale.