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SCOTTISH GRA REFORM ANNOUNCEMENT BROUGHT FORWARD

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Mbwashenzi · 18/06/2019 18:59

It was going to be announced on the 25th - now moved forward to Thursday. Anyone going to join me in the public gallery at Holyrood??

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ScottishDoll · 20/06/2019 16:22

Gail Ross - damage to trans boohoo

Answer - yeah totes boohoo talked to them loads

(btw how many detransitioners has she met with?)

Popchyk · 20/06/2019 16:21

Stonewall already released a statement.

Obviously they'd seen the Scottish Government statement before it was made public.

www.stonewallscotland.org.uk/about-us/news/stonewall-scotland-statement-scottish-gra-reform

ScottishDoll · 20/06/2019 16:20

Kez - trans not ill just bullied over birth cert boohoo

Answer - totes not fair Kez, poor them for wanting fiction in the face of toxic fact, let's get support for fiction

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 20/06/2019 16:20

Kezia Dugdale says "all hey want is a birth certificate that reflects who they are"

Well, they are trans, not changing sex. So, they can have a BC that says their sex and update gender?

They can't change sex.

Can't.

It might be a tough thing to accept, but, it is true.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 20/06/2019 16:20

apparently the debate has been toxic

ya think?

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 20/06/2019 16:19

'All my trans constituents want is a birth certificate that matches who they are!'

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 20/06/2019 16:19

Oh Kezia...

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 20/06/2019 16:19

Kezia dougdale - coming across as a bit over invested

ScottishDoll · 20/06/2019 16:18

Richard Lyle - equality welcomed, how can public be made to see that (for trans)

Answer - social media BAD
gvt fact sheets instead
gulp

ScottishDoll · 20/06/2019 16:16

LGBTY - in good faith BUT

concerns raised

faith lost

gvnt needs to restore faith in policy ?!?

Hmm
EweSurname · 20/06/2019 16:15

What can women do?

Keep spreading the word. Tell people about this in real life so as much sunlight is shone on this as possible.

ScottishDoll · 20/06/2019 16:15

Jamie Greene - school guidance why replace?

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 20/06/2019 16:14

Shirley Anne Sommerville

Gender recgmnition has been in place since 2005

equality act allows trans people to be excluded from single sex spaces

except for Karen White eh shirley?

so no answer on the question of the rapist who fancies a spell in women's prison. apparently there's nothing to see here

ScottishDoll · 20/06/2019 16:14

AAARRRGGHHH!!!

GRA not new, fuck off Joan.

Crimes cannot be hid.

Nothing happening here lalala

dragongirlx · 20/06/2019 16:13

Joan McAlpine on the equality act and how it fails women
she is pointing out what the Trans Organisations and asked for a review of the single sex exemptions and make sure they are working

ScottishDoll · 20/06/2019 16:13

McAlpine Grin

grass roots rock.

sex matters.

equality act is harmed.

history of violence trans effect?

hassled by speaker

no single sex exemptions happening

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 20/06/2019 16:12

ohh, Joan just asked my question! should men with a history of violence be allowed to get a GRC?

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 20/06/2019 16:12

Alex Cole Hamilton wants to run the detail through without the consolation?

Did I hear him right?

lazymare · 20/06/2019 16:12

She's not holding back/

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 20/06/2019 16:12

Yay! Joan McAlpine

Shero

mentioning women's campaign groups - turns out they're not transphobic

lazymare · 20/06/2019 16:11

Joan is on

ScottishDoll · 20/06/2019 16:11

Ha - fuck the consultation, can't we just introduce the bill anyhoo!

Harvey - democracy be damned

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 20/06/2019 16:10

current question - better to pass shitty legislation with no consultation now that delay

Hmm
BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 20/06/2019 16:09

yeah, I guess the issue is, what will this GRC mean? I'm still not clear on that. If a man is convicted of rape, will he be allowed to make a statutory declaration? Does that mean he pops off to women's prison?

OvaHere · 20/06/2019 16:09

This seems cautiously positive although I'm yet to be convinced any consultation with women won't be fudged. I consider very few in the government trustworthy.