Ed Davey Webchat

The other thread that keeps popping up in my Threads I’m On list is the surrogacy one

In the light of Ed’s insistence that men are women, this seems rather like salt in the wound today

!!!!! Paging Anna Soubry !!!!!

Your party has an opportunity here!

For me, that's not a policy position, it's their reality and I respect it.

Every time I read nonsense like this, I just have one question:

Where is your respect for our reality?

In a patriarchal society like ours, women and girls, as members of the female sex class, experience a large number of small, medium and big incidents of discrimination and oppression on the basis of their sex. Over the last 150 years, we fought for and achieved a number of sex-based rights for our protection and a measure of equality.

Now these rights are under attack while we continue to be discriminated against and ippressed. That is our reality. And men like him have not just got no respect for our reality, they deny it exists and want to stop us even talking about it.

No feminist should support the LDs if he, Layla (soul seer) Moran and Jo Swinson are the best they can do.

At least he confirmed, without any doubt that LD are not a party that care for women unless they are men.

Maybe we should commend him for sticking to a policy position (sorry, "their reality") even when it is harmful to half of your potential electorate. Effectively he has just come on to Mumsnet and said, "I don't give a fuck about women and their concerns about safety."

Well done, Ed! You just need to put that loud and clear in your manifesto.

Yes, I mean it’s very clear, if you believe in women’s rights, then the lib dems is not the place for you

So is it 1919 or 2019? I feel like I’m going to have to start blowing up post boxes soon

I doubt Ed even bothered to have any input in the answers. Some campaign assistant just edited a bunch of scripts based on keywords.

Not a fucking clue ed not a fucking clue

He was asked what a woman was. And he didn’t have a clue

But hey off he will trot back to La la land

He seemed like he was full of me me and didn’t or couldn’t think just a bit about what women were ACTUALLY saying to him

Anyone else imagining Ed now lying prone in a darkened room? I do hope so!

I never know what annoys me most about these woke bros - the contempt for women or the contempt for logic and reason. How can someone write something as fundamentally idiotic and devoid of reason as, 'So for me, a trans woman is a woman, and a trans man is a man. For me, that's not a policy position, it's their reality and I respect it.'?

Where does 'For me' come into it? 'For me, dogs are cat and the earth is flat. That's not a policy position, that's the reality of dogs and flat-earthers.'

He couldn't be more stupid if he was actively trying.

Well I suppose in that light he was up front and honest. If you believe in women's rights the LibDems don't want your vote.

Righto, mate. Moving on.

Frankly if a politician openly intends to remove women's rights then what other political questions become even remotely relevant for women to ask?

Yeah, this

Poor HQ pleading about would the women's rights questions please stop now..... no, @MNHQ, really sorry but they can't. Frankly if a politician openly intends to remove women's rights then what other political questions become even remotely relevant for women to ask?

Don't read it Lang.

I read it.

Dear goddess. Wheeling out the two-year-out-of-date canards.

Pompous, useless, misogynist preening in his own Woke Custard.

does he think they vote much? how about stuffing envelopes? knocking on doors? making tea for the brave revolutionaries?

Not to mention that a high percentage of twitter activists are anime characters who live in out in the ether somewhere outside of the UK.

RedTooth - yes, I just had a look on his Twitter and of course his tweet about being on MN was all full of 'transphobic meanies' etc etc. So, yes, I think he was playing to them, and couldn't give a shit about 12 million MNers reading his webchat.

And agreed about the maternity leave comment. Jesus.

Don't read it Lang.

He was asked "what is a women"

His answer was to explain why he supports self id.

I can only conclude that to him, a woman is male.

Exactly. That question was nothing to do with trans. It was a pure women's rights question and his default was to immediately frame it around men.

Question:
Was he playing to the MN crowd or the twitter lot who had piled onto his feed after he publicised the chat there, started to tell him to stand up against the evil women of MN?

does he think they vote much? how about stuffing envelopes? knocking on doors? making tea for the brave revolutionaries?

He came across as an ignorant idiot. Didn't exactly cover himself in glory.

I wish people wouldn't ask about the fucking biscuits.

Even the answer to the Stella Creasy maternity question is what about the menz

That jumped out at me, too.