Ed Davey Webchat

God, what a dismal performance! Clueless Ed told 12 million Mumsnet users that men's feelings are far more important than women's rights, safety and dignity, revealing his contempt for women in no uncertain terms.

The nonsense about people being entitled to name their own reality shows that he doesn’t even believe that people can change sex. He has not once said that they can, but that’s ok, because he can claim his woke cookies.

Now be fair, you bunch of ‘transphobic’ women. At least he’s been able to get over his fear of bad women who falsely claim to be ’transmen’, in order to attack, molest or uptrouser poor men in toilets, changing rooms, etc, not to mention he’s happy for ‘transmen’ to win against men in sports, plus taking sports scholarships away from men. Why can’t you women do the same.

Now think about that and let it PENETRATE! 🤔

Oh yeah! That’s right, that doesn’t fucking happen to men, so it’s easy for him to support trans rights, because they don’t negatively affect men, but put women ‘back in their place’. He doesn’t even try to hide the misogyny.

I think someone really needs to take apart this business of people defining their own identity. It's bollocks all around but it is the go to answer, and for that matter many people believe it.

One noticeable feature of Elderly Parents is how often daughters get dumped on and how often their male siblings feel it is absolutely OK to do this. Caring is a pretty hidden and unrecognised contribution to society, and very very largely falls on the shoulders of women.

I am not sure that our friend Ed Davey and his Twitter mates have ever thought about this.

Yes it was a rather crap response but I really struggled to understand what the question was actually asking!

The antenatal boards are good. As are the childbirth and pregnancy boards.

As is the elderly parents board for us oldie sandwiches.

I was footling about on babycenter when I needed advice, so never used those boards. I just go to active and here, so tend to assume all of MN is like AIBU!

That was a corker of a non answer. Thanks.

But actually cause for reasonable optimism that he might kick the current GRA reform proposals into the long grass.

Disgraceful - glad I don’t vote for that shower of shit any more. Loved how he turned the question about maternity leave to talk about men’s rights instead! In fact that annoyed me more than the trans stuff, which was pretty much the answer I would have expected. Actually his ‘principled’ remark annoyed me too, as if the GC, pro women stance is somehow unprincipled 😡

Not to mention that it's been a long while since some of us needed baby stuff.

Love.
He's into love.

Then he's clearly my man!

I really do not like Boris, so almost anyone but.. It is a low bar, though Penny Maudant would not have managed it.

It's the Mumsnet Radicalisation Portal

This almost had me wishing I lived in Sheffield Hallam where Laura Gordon is the Lib Dem parliamentary candidate. Have your questions ready should she knock on the door!

If I wanted advice on baby stuff Mumsnet would be literally the last place I would go. Have you seen the main boards? Judgey pants central

Inside information on top news stories? Analysis of the political situation? Best handbag for under £100? Yes. Advice on baby stuff? Not on your nelly

Oh dear God. How stupid can you be?

If you can't define the word woman, what is the effing point of saying you want parliament to be 50% women!

If men are women, that can make it 100% men.

Either he knows that full well and he's just decided that women are shit on his shoe, or he thinks he's playing a game. Let's just pretend this complete fantasy, because in reality it won't matter.

In reality I can say that men are women, but that won't affect women's rights.

In reality an all women shortlist won't have any transwomen on it. Because that's not really what I mean.

Yes it fucking will. And they can all be trans.

This blatant idiocy is difficult even to comprehend.

I'm proud that the LDs have championed diversity, and that at long last we are getting far more women standing as parliamentary candidates in winnable seats - and my ambition would be to get at least a 50/50 parliamentary party asap

Are are you going to do that, Ed?

HOW??

I've never been afraid of taking a principled position

This was a particular moment for me

Just imagine if women started thinking about things other than baby products. What hideous kind of dystopia would that be?

It's the Mumsnet Radicalisation Portal on a response to his Tweet, watch out everyone, you've been groomed when looking for baby things, don't get ideas above your mothering role

*Every time I read nonsense like this, I just have one question:

Where is your respect for our reality?*

Definitely CharlieParley The right to recognise reality, including in order to safeguard youself, is surely at least as equally important as the right to self determine your identity.

Silly bugger.

I would love to be able to vote for the LibDems, but his clear misogyny means I can't. On a day when the Labour students womans officer is calling out a lesbian for not wanting to sleep with them, why can't the LibDems show some concern for lesbians, women and children.

I hope he learned how toxic his party's stance is for women. But he struck me as the sort of bloke who sees no reason to listen to us.

I am warming to Rory Stewart though. Does anyone know what his position is?

I don’t see men having their biology exploited for profit in this horrific way