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Councillor wants Mayor to make all toilets gender neutral

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Comingtoatownnearyou · 17/06/2019 20:56

Local paper today:

www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/mayor-quizzed-gender-neutral-toilets-16437625

I am planning on writing to the Mayor to be vocal in my objections, but I may need some guidance as well please.

Traditionally toilets have been gender specific, divided into two categories: male and female.

First of all I will make it very clear that they have been divided by SEX.

make a start by designating all council building toilets as gender-neutral.

I guess this is where I need to start quoting the Equality Act? and that it is a legitimate aim to separate by sex. I am also going to quote the (2011) cenus figures about the diversity of the town and the significantly high Muslim population.

I understand, clearly, there will be some concerns from some councillors and members of the public but the risk does not increase once public toilets become gender neutral.

In fact, if anyone has any intention in committing a crime at present, they will do so.

This is about creating a much more safer environment for transgender and non binary people.

The first really is not true is it? and the last is just about getting women to suck it up

I am having lots of thoughts that I will keep to myself.

I do have a lot of respect for Ellie though, I don't necessarily agree with all of her viewpoints but she is always fairly respectful when voicing them.

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ZebrasAreBras · 17/07/2019 16:12

Great news!

Now, London!! Edward Lord, care to review a decision to make all central London toilets, and the Hampstead Women's Pond! gender neutral - based on a consultation where you disregarded tens of thousands of replies?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 17/07/2019 16:12

It is understood that Mr Preston's decision is unrelated to Cllr Smith being charged with child sex offences earlier this week

Really? Really? He doesn’t see any link or anything remotely dodgy about a man pushing one single agenda that would allow grown men such as himself access to kids in an enclosed space where they may we’ll be on their own?

SunsetBeetch · 17/07/2019 16:07

We CAN make a difference

"Gender-neutral toilets trial put on hold after 'mixed response' from public
Middlesbrough Mayor Andy Preston wants to consult more thoroughly on the suggestion"

www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/gender-neutral-toilets-trial-put-16600175.amp?__twitter_impression=true

GirlDownUnder · 16/07/2019 02:23

It feels like the powers that be are wilfully blind when it comes to risks faced by women and girls, and bias blind when it comes to who poses that risk.

We're the bloody chickens running around shouting at the farmer that there's a fox in the hen house. Farmer paternally pats us on the head, while holding the hen house door open with a Foxes Welcome mat!

GCAcademic · 16/07/2019 00:02

Why are there so many of these weird-looking middle-aged men who are desperate to bring about a situation where they can share toilets with women and girls?

Well, it seems the question I asked last month about this guy has been answered even more quickly than I’d anticipated.

wacademia · 15/07/2019 23:48

OP and any Teeside council staff reading this: employers are obliged by law to provide single-sex toilets to their staff. This includes councils employing staff in council buildings. The only exception is if the toilets are in individual rooms with doors that lock from the inside. Provision 20, para 2c of The Workplace (Health, Safety, and Welfare) Regulations 1992 is the relevant law.

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 15/07/2019 21:10

Well what do you know #ThisNeverHappens happening right before our eyes.

Anyone else wondering if the long (side) hair is part of a convenient transition?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 15/07/2019 19:57

That is so... just so wrong. Sodor is missing it’s controller.

ZebrasAreBras · 15/07/2019 19:55

Here's the Edward Lord screenshot though...

Councillor wants Mayor to make all toilets gender neutral
ZebrasAreBras · 15/07/2019 19:53

I don't think MNHQ like it when we make "lists" - best keep it subtle. Wink

SunsetBeetch · 15/07/2019 19:44

Do we have a list/thread somewhere of all these creeps?

ZebrasAreBras · 15/07/2019 19:26

I think an honorary mention to other suspiciously dubious councillors/mayors who endorse gender neutral toilets.

Liverpool Mayor Joe Anderson tips off paedophile about raid. www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/liverpool-teacher-acccused-downloading-child-3445705

And our old favourite Mr Lord, who seems v friendly with PIE members on twitter.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 15/07/2019 19:26

The backgrounds of some of those feted by the government and the BBC seem very relevant in relation to their obsession for "advising" schools and organisations like the Girl Guides about how essential it is that girls must share showers, sleeping accommodation, changing rooms etc with males.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 15/07/2019 18:46

Honestly. Why can't we just say it? Half the people campaigning for an end to women's single-sex facilities are bloody pervs

I'm not a big one for generalisations, but it seems to be a very consistent thing, doesn't it?

SunsetBeetch · 15/07/2019 18:43

twitter.com/_lor/status/1150811223975432193?s=19

"Same situation with a man in USA, North Carolina who headed the bathroom bill - he was a convicted sex offender. t.co/PJ9Yb2tEDw"

amp.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article64943682.html?__twitter_impression=true

Lordamighty · 15/07/2019 18:38

Quelle surprise. To be fair he couldn’t have looked any more like a pervert if he’d tried.

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Comingtoatownnearyou · 15/07/2019 18:24

So he's resigned from the Tory party but still allowed to be a councillor? How does that work? These are serious charges yeah I know, innocent until proven guilty and other job you would be suspended, not allowed to remain in it.

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OvaHere · 15/07/2019 18:24

Oh what a shock. Not.

SunsetBeetch · 15/07/2019 18:23

democracy.middlesbrough.gov.uk/aksmiddlesbrough/users/public/admin/main.pl?op=MemberDetails&keyid=262

Look at some of the council bodies he is part of:

Adult Social Care and Services Scrutiny Panel

Children and Young People's Learning Scrutiny Panel

Talk anout hiding in plain sight

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 15/07/2019 18:14

Well hesheit will get a warm reception wherever they go.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 15/07/2019 18:11

Do you really need to ask LordProf ?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 15/07/2019 18:10

So if convicted and sentenced to a custodial... which prison will this person demand to enter?

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Comingtoatownnearyou · 15/07/2019 18:09

Bloody WHO agrees this - it's a top priority, what on earth makes people think they're wrong?

Probably the same reason they think they are wrong about chest breastfeeding. Doesn't apply to us and our countries, just the 'poor' countries.

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FlibbertyGiblets · 15/07/2019 18:06

Thank you Sunset.

Sunlight/disinfects
Dark corners/and recesses
Benefit as well.

butteryellow · 15/07/2019 17:55

but the risk does not increase once public toilets become gender neutral.

But that's incorrect - statistics have shown that mixed sex facilities (because that's what they are - they're already gender neutral) increase the risk to women and girls.

Bloody WHO agrees this - it's a top priority, what on earth makes people think they're wrong?