Women with fake little girl voices

Lassare you seriously suggesting that women aren't affected by society's pressure on them to appear young and helpless?? This is part of that! It's a feminist issue

No I don't agree. Frankly bollocks.

And that isn't what your OP was about anyway. That's a bit of backtracking to try to make your OP less unpleasant.

@snitzelvoncrumb that was rude and completely unnecessary.

I worked with a woman who did it, would be talking in a normal voice and then switch to a childlike high pitches voice if talking to a man, it was fascinating and cringeworthy. Can only presume it was meant to be appeasing/sexy?

My mum does this when she's nervous, or trying to assert herself. It's an audible signal that she's gone into 'child'. It used to irritate me until I grew up myself and realised that it a consequence of her shit childhood. Now I try to be tolerant.

I'm sorry, but a feminist chat thread policing women's voices?

It's analysis,Wishing, not criticism

There is precious little "analysis" on here , but carry on patting yourselves on the back about how superior you are compared to these mainly older women.

Can't say this is a phenomenon I've ever noticed.

I have to say I don’t think Alan Carr’s voice is put on at all. It’s just the ways he speaks. And he’s got quite a deep voice in comparison to a woman’s.

Love that fast show sketch.

Also fascinating comment about Marilyn Monroe (her voice was the first one I thought of when I saw the thread title. I don't actually find her voice annoying, though, I think she was a brilliant comedian who was screwed over by all the men around her.)

It's interesting because in the last few years I've realised I've done the opposite. Since adulthood (lots of time giving seminars and lectures and having to project authority) I've spoken with what I suspect is an artificially deep voice (I sing soprano, so I suspect my speaking voice should be higher pitched than it actually is).

Some men's voices are really annoying too, the ones who seem to have cultivated a silly voice, like Keith Lemon or Alan Carr. I'm general though, I guess men don't have any 'need' to alter their voices to get on in life, so there are fewer to get irritated by.

I’m in Sydney and have never heard women doing this. I have noticed that English women’s voices sound very high pitched to my ears, though.

This article seems to suggest Australia women’s voices are actually getting deeper:

www.bbc.com/capital/story/20180612-the-reasons-why-womens-voices-are-deeper-today

I have spotted it in London. Both New Zealanders, and not that old. Weird.

Interestingly in Aus there are the extremely fluffy little girly voices and the female version of ladette/blokey ones as well. Both equally grating. Believe it or not, the fluffy one is better for your vocal chords.... Oh, and @snitzelvoncrumb - I AM an Aussie, so don’t be xenophobic. (And it’s Schnitzel, btw....)

Last year DSs teacher did this complete with a little lisp. She is vice principal and had to stand in as principal for a few months due to problems. I’m convinced she didn’t get the principal job full time because of her irritating way of talking. It reminded me of Deloris Umbridge from Harry Potter.

It's analysis, Wishing, not criticism.

It's because of the Kardashians , they do it , bloody annoying

My friend used to do this with her boyfriend. Fuckery ridiculous

Is it ‘sexy baby’?

m.youtube.com/watch?v=uEmKN6DT-VE

Oh God, this is a pet hate of mine. It makes the hairs stand up on my arms and neck. My dh's stepmum and step sister do inane baby talk voices; they are 53 and 26. 🤢

Wishing, are you now policing what we can talk about?

Feminists can talk about what the hell we want

Just trying to understand maybe what's at the root of put on little-girl voices, nobody is saying women's voices are annoying as such

Women's voices have generally got deeper as we have got more power in the workplace. I suspect Margaret Thatcher's well known voice coaching has increased this effect in Britain in comparison to some other countries, we all know we 'need' a deep voice to sound authorative.

It's enculturation. Some women are 'trained' from an early age to speak to men with a little girl voice, presumably for attention.
It is indeed grating.

I'm sorry, but a feminist chat thread policing women's voices?

Can we not?

My friend worked at a radio station and kept a folder of emails from listeners complaining about women's DJ and Newsreaders voices being annoying. It had thousands of emails in it.

He also kept a folder of listeners complaining about the (overwhelmingly male) DJ and newsreaders voices being annoying. It had Zero emails in it.

I find this when visiting some parts of the US, women speak generally at a higher pitch than in the UK.

It's not that twee little girl voice but I still find it irritating after a while. Just a cultural difference though.

I always thought some women just naturally talk like this?

Me, I sound like a man (baritone)