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Why can’t transgender lesbians just date each other?

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Hithere12 · 17/06/2019 01:41

I keep seeing online transgender women so angry a female lesbian doesn’t want to date someone trans, but it begs the question why can’t they just date each other?

If they genuinely believe a trans woman is without question a woman and they are attracted to women then surely this would solve all their problems in terms of finding a partner? They could just date each other? Unless they don’t want to date trans women because they don’t see trans women as real women? Hmm Confused

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Michelleoftheresistance · 17/06/2019 12:23

Saw a tweet yesterday saying it's our duty! Thought we were in 1984 but more like 1954 now.

Lie back and think of England..... it's incel and MRA thinking. And highly narcissistic thinking. And 'women are subhuman and just there to service men' thinking. As indefensible as demanding that homosexual women 'learn to cope with' providing sex to penis owners (their enjoyment of sex or right to choice not even mentioned, it's accepted this means abandoning their preference for the Greater Good) because it's unacceptable that biological women should not meet men's sexual needs.

And men now have a new sexual need, which is that they wish to be provided with sex with homosexual women, in order to validate their self perception of themselves as a woman.

There is no way to get around the facts here:

This agenda uses women for sexual work and denies them autonomy

This agenda is homophobic - the right of men to use women's bodies is greater than the right of women to choose a sex life that excludes males

This agenda separates males who identify as women from biological women, clearly recognising a factual difference in order to lay down the very different entitlements for each group, and involves compelled speech and servicing of belief from biological women.

Women are fucking furious about this and are staggered there's anyone with a brain who can't see why the Emperor needs to get their clothes back on and stop being an arse.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 17/06/2019 12:16

Whatis thank you for that post, it's very articulate and to the point. I'm sorry for the shit lesbians are having to put up with these days. Sad

joyfullittlehippo · 17/06/2019 12:16

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JustWhoIAm · 17/06/2019 12:08

I've only discussed this with one lesbian friend. Her attitude is "I don't do the cock". So she won't ever be dating a transwoman however pretty their dress.

RuffleCrow · 17/06/2019 11:52

"Oh, do behave in a ladylike manner or we'll give you all detention. And heaven help you girls if the headmaster gets wind of this!"

HebeMumsnet · 17/06/2019 11:43

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Lamaha · 17/06/2019 11:27

@whatis Flowers
A lot of strange posts on this thread.

Whatisthisfuckery · 17/06/2019 10:30

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TinselAngel · 17/06/2019 10:26

My experience is that they often do date each other.

Hithere12 · 17/06/2019 10:24

Does anyone remember a survey of trans identified people with a really low percentage who would consider dating other trans identified people?

Well they need to stop being such hateful bigots 😡 trans women ARE women /s

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Missingstreetlife · 17/06/2019 10:22

Saw a tweet yesterday saying it's our duty! Thought we were in 1984 but more like 1954 now. Jesus

anomoony · 17/06/2019 10:03

And that the people who are born with the typical XY sexual appendage do not actually see other people who are born with the typical XY sexual appendage as people who are born with the typical XX... oh FFS this is tedious.

anomoony · 17/06/2019 09:59

the reason is glaringly obvious and will therefore get deleted if i say it

Is it that the people who are born with the typical XY sexual appendage are allowed their sexual preferences while the people who are born with the typical XX sexual configuration are not?

Hithere12 · 17/06/2019 09:50

the reason is glaringly obvious and will therefore get deleted if i say it

Yes I know I was so careful with my wording which is why my posts are so waffly.

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Ereshkigal · 17/06/2019 09:47

Does anyone remember a survey of trans identified people with a really low percentage who would consider dating other trans identified people?

Yes, I've linked to it before, trying to remember where!

Ereshkigal · 17/06/2019 09:46

"Cotton Ceiling" evidence thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3294339-cotton-ceiling-evidence-thread

RuffleCrow · 17/06/2019 09:31

the reason is glaringly obvious and will therefore get deleted if i say it.

BTHM

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 17/06/2019 09:30

Does anyone remember a survey of trans identified people with a really low percentage who would consider dating other trans identified people?

TeaEnjoyingRadiantFeminist · 17/06/2019 09:30

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QueenOfTheTofuTree · 17/06/2019 09:28

And if transwomen should be able to choose who they date and have sex with then lesbians should have the same right.

If it's wrong to pressurise transwomen into having relationships with other trans women then it's also wrong to pressurise lesbians to have relationships with trans women.

Only one of these groups however will have their wishes respected. The other will be hounded, abused and threatened for daring to say 'I don't do dick'....

NottonightJosepheen · 17/06/2019 09:26

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SuperLoudPoppingAction · 17/06/2019 09:24

I honestly think lesbian women who say they would consider male sexual partners with a feminine gender identity are lying.
It's the only explanation I can think of.
I am a lesbian and most of my friends are.
None of the lesbians I know who come out with this virtue signaling nonsense have ever actually dated a male person who claims a womanly identify.
I'm autistic and lying is something I struggle with so I'm not sure how to negotiate this.

But honestly the idea of loving women and being same sex attracted and saying 'oh yes I would totally date any male people who are women by dint of their saying they are women' just does not match up with reality.

But I do see a lot of young women saying they're pansexual as it seems to mean they get less hate from the woke brigade.

QueenOfTheTofuTree · 17/06/2019 09:23

*you

QueenOfTheTofuTree · 17/06/2019 09:22

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