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Convicted paedophile lusts over Desmond (the amazing one) [trigger warning for obvious reasons]

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OrchidInTheSun · 16/06/2019 13:53

Tom O'Carroll, former chair of PIE, has written a piece saying how sexy he finds Desmond. I note that our old friend Peter Tatchell is tagged too.

But of course there's nothing wrong or weird with a kid dressing up and dancing in gay clubs. Hmm

At least he's not pretending it's not sexualising childhood I suppose

Convicted paedophile lusts over Desmond (the amazing one) [trigger warning for obvious reasons]
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hipsterfun · 17/06/2019 22:33

Creepy doesn’t begin to describe that video with Alig. Every aspect of it has the creepy-meter maxed out.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 17/06/2019 18:33

Poor kid. Should be trotting around museums looking at dinosaurs, watching cartoons, and playing on slides - not shimmying in gay bars for dollars and hanging out in highly sexually charged environments (and posing next to random naked men).

When is he a kid?

Goosefoot · 17/06/2019 18:31

Ah, I had thought they had just said that he was a "drag kid" at 2.

I agree it's not a good idea to be telling kids that they have a sexual preference at that age. I see it around a lot though, not usually at two, but my daughters elementary school for example was very big on their school group for LGBT+ kids, there seemed to be a big push for kids to label themselves before they've even really reached puberty.

calpop · 17/06/2019 18:25

Desmond? His parents state very clearly that he is gay and they have known since he was 2. Baloney of course but that's what they say. I say he's autistic, possibly, and either way, far too young to have known he was gay at 2, though it will no doubt now be a self fullfiing prophecy since everyone around him has been telling him hes gay for 10 years. If he's actually straight, I'm sure they'll decide hes trans instead.

Goosefoot · 17/06/2019 17:09

I am a little unsure, do they claim he is gay? It sounds like it says so in the OP link but I've not seen it said right out anywhere though they imply it.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 17/06/2019 16:10

Hmmmm seems to be a thing these days (from a Metro story about an 8 year old personage drag kid)

Sparkle, who uses the pronouns ‘they’ and ‘them’ was described as ‘born fabulous’ by their supportive mother

FermatsTheorem · 17/06/2019 12:19

Oops wrong thread - that was meant for the "Teen Vogue thinks prostitution is a great career to aspire to" thread. Sorry!

OrchidInTheSun · 17/06/2019 12:17

Oh and this one: Jay vs Secretary of State for Justice -- getting a GRC on appeal after panel says 'no' three times www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3481765-Jay-vs-Secretary-of-State-for-Justice-getting-a-GRC-on-appeal-after-panel-says-no-three-times

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OrchidInTheSun · 17/06/2019 12:15

In a clumsy attempt to be more R0wantrees, see this thread: Network Autism thinks gender id develops in foetus (title edited by MNHQ) www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3589202-Network-Autism-thinks-gender-id-develops-in-foetus-title-edited-by-MNHQ

And this one:
Foster children (3 and 7) transitioning. Times article www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3583675-Foster-children-3-and-7-transitioning-Times-article

for more on Vicki Pasterski and Melissa Hines

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FermatsTheorem · 17/06/2019 10:08

Good point about why no-one says "child labour is work", "sweatshop labour is work."

I always say this on these threads, but the crucial thing is to keep turning attention from the women and back onto the "invisible men" who use them.

Who benefits from the happy hooker narrative? It sure as hell isn't teenage girls, who ought to be being encouraged to become engineers, writers, lawyers, medical professionals, architects, business women, scientists, charity workers.

Not being encouraged to aspire to becoming receptacles for men's masturbatory fantasies.

NeurotrashWarrior · 17/06/2019 09:55

Blaire White on teen vogue.

I see TV popping up a lot; starting to get spider senses about them. Several red flags.

NeurotrashWarrior · 17/06/2019 09:53

Just thinking about the parents though. Autism has a very large genetic component - it is likely that his parents are vulnerable adults too.

Good point. But still no excuse.

SarahTancredi · 17/06/2019 09:27

Then no one cares about a safe space

SarahTancredi · 17/06/2019 09:26

Unless you are a child, or a lesbian or a woman without a penis

DuMondeB · 17/06/2019 09:26

Teen Vogue are now promoting sex work as work: mobile.twitter.com/TeenVogue/status/1140372239537377280

So I think we have a paedophilic full house.

And no, TeenVogue, it isn’t. It’s abuse.

2BthatUnnoticed · 17/06/2019 09:14

The question was discouraged because “this is a safe space.” Confused

SarahTancredi · 17/06/2019 08:42

Its unbelievable to think that apparently its us who are the problem HmmAngry

That audience are afraid to even stop and think for a second.

I bet every single one of them has uttered or thought the phrase " what are they doing out this late" when confronted by kids in a restaurant at 9/10 o clock or when the neighbours kids are still playing outside in the dark on a school night

But this...this is fine. Hmm

3am. Not a problem. Boo off anyone who thinks kids dancing in a nightclub even borders on inappropriate.

PencilsInSpace · 17/06/2019 08:31

Julia Long clip

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 17/06/2019 07:22

”kids should be encouraged to do whatever they want to do,” the defence of many a paedophile I believe.

2BthatUnnoticed · 17/06/2019 06:09

Sorry, on my phone so can only screenshot not link. But I saw this clip of Julia Long questioning MB about Desmond performing for adult men who threw money at him.

It’s scary. Julia was booed and ultimately asked to leave for asking this question. MB just said “kids should be encouraged to do whatever they want to do,” to loud applause.

Nobody sees the safeguarding issue. I remember (20 years ago or more?) a similar conversation around some young boys who spent time with Michael Jackson.

Everyone who raised concerns back then were shamed, called prudes and bullied into silence.

Convicted paedophile lusts over Desmond (the amazing one) [trigger warning for obvious reasons]
NotBadConsidering · 17/06/2019 04:32

This makes be so angry. If I took my 12 year old DD down to the local Spearmint Rhino and got her to dance for money, I would rightly be arrested, questioned, have social services involved etc etc. The reason I don’t do this is because I am not completely deranged.

As Janice Turner said, the rainbow flag is not a fig leaf.

OrangeCinnamon · 17/06/2019 04:24

This is so.disturbing Angry

LassOfFyvie · 17/06/2019 01:29

He also cannot dance or act/perform any where near as well as my son and his friends can

I mentioned that on another thread. The truth is, as a child performer, Desmond is very far from "amazing"

calpop · 16/06/2019 23:50

He's 9m older than my son but looks and acts about 3/4 years younger - playing with the same trains he stopped playing with years ago. He also cannot dance or act/perform any where near as well as my son and his friends can. And yet he is feted as an amazing performer. The agenda behind this is so, so, so disturbing (and the parenting).

calpop · 16/06/2019 22:59

I've just read the entire KF thread on Desmond. Coincidentally I watched the Netflix film "I am Mother" today as well. I think the robot AI may have had a point.

It feels like so many children are being failed.