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Barrister Sarah Phillimore and the NSPCC

215 replies

christinarossetti19 · 14/06/2019 21:56

Sarah Phillimore has reported the NSPCC to the charities commission, as they refused to confirm that either the allegations made about wanking@work are false or that they are investigating matter.

As she says, this is another Oxfam or Kids Company waiting to happen. Thank you Sarah for devoting your expertise to this.

twitter.com/SVPhillimore

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Needmoresleep · 17/06/2019 07:47

Thank you.

The NSPCC response seems to be a symptom of a much large problem within the public and third sectors. I am happy to donate to help shine a light on the thinking behind the inappropriate response.

FermatsTheorem · 17/06/2019 07:46

Spero, I will definitely chip in to your crowd funder when it's launched.

I found my conversation with the news agency really frightening actually. She just said 'no paper will touch this'. And I was saying but why? but why? The actual story is beyond doubt - whatever this individual did or didn't do in the toilets, the NSPCC basically told anyone worried to 'fuck off bigot'.

That, in a nutshell, is it. And it's why I find this so gobsmacking and so sinister. Think of how far out on a limb James Kirkup and Janice Turner have gone in particular on this issue in general. So why are the NSPCC teflon? Not to touch this issue... Well, what the fuck strings are the NSPCC pulling to manage such a cover up?

It makes me think (I could of course be wrong, I hope I'm wrong) that they are covering up a scandal of Savile proportions here.

Spero · 17/06/2019 07:34

I think the crowd funder will be best way to mobilise.

The Charities Commission say they need 30 days to respond.

I am going to bet a large sum of money on fact that they either fail to respond or fob me off. If so, I am going to crowd fund for specialist advice on where to go with this - JR the CC? Go after the NSPCC via charities legislation or the Privy Council?

I am not naive enough to think that legal action will cure this. What I think WILL cure this is getting enough mainstream attention that journalists cannot ignore this. A light has to be shone on the operation of the NSPCC and why on earth they thought their response to this was the way to go.

Date in my diary is July 15th. I hope to see you all again then.

1984in2019 · 17/06/2019 07:28

Can we mobilise via our various school/PTA links as well? NSPCC fundraising (as well as NSPCC school outreach) is prolific in schools. Is there a letter or link I could share with our school governors and PTA.

Spero · 17/06/2019 07:27

The point here is not what this employee did or didn't do.
The point is the response - or lack of it - from the NSPCC

If the allegations are fake - say so
If you don't know if the allegations are fake - investigate

What you DO NOT do is slur anyone who is concerned as 'homophobe' or any other kind of phobe. Putting particular people or groups as above and beyond scrutiny in child protection is what gave us Jimmy Savile.

I have no idea what this man did or didn't do. The screenshots I have seen have been concerning, but I am not an idiot and I know how easily these things can be faked. But this whole thing goes way, way, way beyond the activities of any individual. The NSPCC's response has revealed themselves to be an organisation that has lost its way. As it is an organisation, I am told, with a £140 million yearly income and statutory powers to bring care proceedings, I chose to find this deeply concerning.

Others may not. That is their right. You can always chose to look the other way or do or say nothing. I don't mind what people do, as long as they don't get in my way.

GrapefruitsAreNotTheOnlyFruit · 17/06/2019 07:19

Slightly confused about this. I thought the employee that linked to these videos from LinkedIn. How come there isn't any evidence then?

SarahTancredi · 17/06/2019 07:14

You can count me in for a contribution to the crowd funder too spero

Thank you for all you are doing. I cant believe what's become of the nspcc. Children need and deserve better they cant protect themselves

Datun · 17/06/2019 02:31

I don't kid myself that legal action is going to achieve anything much. but what WOULD I hope get people talking was if we could raise a significant amount of money and promote a wider public debate about the appalling response of the NSPCC.

Definitely Spero. Get sunlight on it. Push for responses, dialogue, explanation. Let the silence speak.

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 17/06/2019 02:08

In any job I have held, many of them in the public sector, behaviour such as linking a highly sexual blog to my workplace, in any way at all, would be grounds for dismissal. Not just because of the sexual aspects but because of a failure of professional judgement.

For the bigger issue is that an organisation can be so insulated from reality that instead of investigating this complaint, they have defended their employee. This points to a massive lack of judgement on the part of the organisation as well as the individual.

I’m old enough and cranky enough, to be perfectly happy with kink-shaming in a public context. That this employee, and the organisation, doesn’t recognise the erosion of professional and accountable boundaries this event represents, suggests much bigger organisational problems are likely to be discoverable. If their judgment is so flawed here, what else are they fucking up?

Children’s charities, all organisations working with children, by their nature, generally are, and should be, conservative and very cautious. The protection of children is not a sphere for testing society’s sexual boundaries.

I am glad that they will be held to account.

MrsToddsShortcut · 17/06/2019 01:35

Thank you so much Spero

Also up for crowdfunding and I know many many more women who will be.

So glad you are doing this. I've never felt such a combination of fear, disillusionment and disbelief as I have over the last few years.

BettyFloop · 17/06/2019 01:18

Mumsnet FWR at your shoulder Spiro.

7Days · 17/06/2019 01:12

Good on you Spero
My gran used to say, it's not hard to fight when you know you're right.
Ok not 100% right but I applaud the sentiment.

You know you're right.

BluebonicPlague · 17/06/2019 01:06

Thank you, Spero! Please keep us posted. I will definitely contribute to a crowdfunder and I spit on those who trash female rights.

ptah!

Threesoups · 17/06/2019 01:01

All power to your elbow. Massive thanks.

The Nspcc is in a unique position in that it has statutory powers to remove a child at risk. As such it is even more important that they have proper safeguarding procedures in place including in regard to staff.

FloralBunting · 17/06/2019 00:54

Bringeth it on. Contribution ready and waiting.

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 17/06/2019 00:49

Thank. You. Spero. 👏👏👏

Another poster pledging any help I can.

nettie434 · 17/06/2019 00:23

Hand waving to join crowdfunder too.

BoreOfWhabylon · 17/06/2019 00:19

< slaps AF >

Grin
Drunkcaterpillar · 17/06/2019 00:09

I'll contribute to a crowdfunder also. You're an amazing woman.

AnyFucker · 17/06/2019 00:03

< slaps self >

Spero, of course. Smile

BoreOfWhabylon · 17/06/2019 00:02

Count me in Spero

stealthsquirrelnutkin · 17/06/2019 00:00

I'm really grateful that you wrote the letter, and that you aren't letting it drop. Count me in for a contribution to the crowdfunder if and when the time comes.

Spero · 16/06/2019 23:40

Thank you again all, I am sorry I didn't think to post here as well, but I got caught up in Twitter - glad to see this was my first ever viral post which at least indicates to me that people feel strongly and I am glad about that. Apathy is a real curse here.

I don't kid myself that legal action is going to achieve anything much. but what WOULD I hope get people talking was if we could raise a significant amount of money and promote a wider public debate about the appalling response of the NSPCC.

Their cut and paste email reply to me and several others made me furious. They have obligations to behave better than this. If they will not recognise that, they must be made to. All of us have an interest in this and all of us have a right and - I think - a moral obligation to speak up.

GrinitchSpinach · 16/06/2019 23:36

Nevertheless, she persisted! Star

Thank you, spero. Count me in for an eventual crowdfunder.

OrchidInTheSun · 16/06/2019 23:34

Keta? My autocorrect is insane.

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