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Barrister Sarah Phillimore and the NSPCC

215 replies

christinarossetti19 · 14/06/2019 21:56

Sarah Phillimore has reported the NSPCC to the charities commission, as they refused to confirm that either the allegations made about wanking@work are false or that they are investigating matter.

As she says, this is another Oxfam or Kids Company waiting to happen. Thank you Sarah for devoting your expertise to this.

twitter.com/SVPhillimore

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Judder · 18/06/2019 00:28

Thank you @Spero I will chip in. We're right behind you.

christinarossetti19 · 17/06/2019 23:06

I think the NSPCC have taken down their 'our people are our priority... back off bullies...everyone pile in' tweet about the JM situation, or maybe I just can't see it.

Lots of reference to helping children talk about their gender identity, referencing Stonewall further down, and an Esther Rantzen piece.

Which is more than a bit ironic as she's fully aware that scores of adults turning a blind eye, elevating Jimmy Savile to saint like status and ignoring reports from children is exactly how he hid in plain site abusing hundreds of children for decades.

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EarlyModernParent · 17/06/2019 22:05

Wish I could say I was surprised by the NSPCC, but I am not. There has long been a gap between reputation and reality there.

MsJeminaPuddleduck · 17/06/2019 21:17

Spero - thank you for doing this. Count me in too. I'll add a note to my diary to check back on 15th July

AnyFucker · 17/06/2019 20:51

@Spero please could you repost here as and when the crowdfunder is live

Some of us don't use Twitter. Interestingly enough, I left that platform because of John Hemming and his fucking hench crew

Cuntysnark · 17/06/2019 20:27

I’m prepared to chip in too. I can’t believe it’s not headline news!

missedith01 · 17/06/2019 19:46

Will chip in when asked. A legal action may not result in a victory, but worthwhile if it NSPCC has to come out and justify themselves.

Natsku · 17/06/2019 18:49

Thank you for doing this spero the shero, will chip in for the crowdfunder

Greyhoundsaregreyt · 17/06/2019 17:49

I’m in for the crowd funder.

LangCleg · 17/06/2019 17:47

Spero - it might be worth reading the threads here about NSPCC cancelling a webchat when they realised awkward questions about safeguarding were going to be asked. No notice given: they simply didn't show. There are reams of posts to struggle through but here are some of the threads.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/3351033-NSPCC-Facebook-webchat

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/mumsnet_facebook_live/3343961-Facebook-Live-about-talking-to-kids-about-staying-safe-from-abuse-with-NSPCC

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3425537-you-know-what-i-am-still-passed-off-with-the-nspcc-over-their-mn-webchat

And here's one from when they misrepresented EqA:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3551084-The-NSPCC-arent-right-about-this-are-they

Spero · 17/06/2019 17:38

Thank you again all. Its very heartening to think that there is so much support. Any one with useful information please do let me know. I am interested in examples of others who have had their concerns brushed off, particularly if that has happened in context of concerns being labelled 'bigotry' or otherwise inappropriate etc, etc.

Throckmorton · 17/06/2019 17:24

Spero, you are an absolute shining star in a very dark time. I am absolutely in on the crowdfunder

hoodathunkit · 17/06/2019 17:07

Spero

I am sadly unable to contribute financially as I have spent many years working flat out unpaid, however if I can help in any other way let me know.

I have a huge database of information that is relevant to this battle, decades of personal experience and I work well as an ancillary mind

:)

OvaHere · 17/06/2019 17:01

Another one who will contribute. I am appalled with the NSPCC. Thank you Spero.

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 17/06/2019 16:02

Spero thank you - you also have my wholehearted support, and in due course will contribute to any crowdfunder. You are also restoring my faith in humanity a little.

The NSPCC is failing children.

I wonder, given their incredibly poor response to safeguarding concerns about the alleged behaviour of their employee, their refusal to investigate and the implication that raising safeguarding concerns around the alleged behaviour (creating porn in NSPCC toilets) is bigoted, would they behave in the same way if such it was alleged such behaviour was carried out by employees working on childline? Just one of the many questions I've been asking myself about the NSPCC recently.

Kilbranan · 17/06/2019 15:08

Thank you for doing this spero I will also contribute to any crowdfunder on this as it’s too important to be ignored/ swept under the carpet

Mumfun · 17/06/2019 14:58

Also remember the NSPCC employee happy to label an enquiring mother a terf when writing on twitter. The mother was concerned about the Girl Guides policy on safeguarding. If they were happy to do that publicly it suggests that many more staff may share his view and have an unacceptable take on safeguarding

beagadorsrock · 17/06/2019 14:57

Thank you for your integrity. I will support a crowdfunding case.

Manderleyagain · 17/06/2019 14:37

Thank you. I will keep my eyes peeled mid July and contribute to a fund.

The way 150 employees publicly went straight to knee jerk 'poor munro' without weighing up the actual conflict of interest her previous public statements posed, was an eye opener. Then I couldn't believe what they tweeted in response to this story. It was alarming.

Well done and thank you.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 17/06/2019 14:33

Very interesting - and another who will contribute to a crowdfunder.

It is also worth individuals still filing a complaint to the NSPCC (partly as that's a pre requisite to any subsequent complaint to the Charity Commission).

One of the issues that might be worth asking / complaining about is, IF it is true that the NSPCC were aware of sexual acts being carried out and filmed in the workplace prior to last week, whether they fulfilled their duty of care to staff by ensuring that none of them were exposed in any way to such degrading acts - deliberately or accidentally. The second question is whether, once knowing about the acts, they promptly carried out risk assessments to ensure how many times this occurred, whether the behaviour was replicated off site and whether there is any possibility that children could have been in the vicinity. Given the range of organisations and children that the NSPCC works directly with, it is reasonable to ask whether any children were present in the building at the time and if so, could they have been impacted by the alleged acts.
As this is the country's leading safeguarding charity, it is proportionate to ask.

Needmoresleep · 17/06/2019 14:04

RoyalCorgi, all that is true. However if you scroll through the Mailonline a lot of their stories start with the personal. So the Girl Guiding story featured Helen. The "hate" police questionings heavily featured Kate Scottow or Caro. Ditto the Yorkshire lesbian thrown out of a pub was pictured wearing her Adult Human Female T Shirt. (Sorry, I forgot her name.) It's almost always some form of human interest. The DM sad face is known for a reason.

I think both the Times and the Mail will report it when the lines are clearer and depending on the NSPCC and the Charities Commission responses. The Mail, interalia has quite a thing about the woke culture in charities administration and has written stories about both the NT and the RNLI, essentially reporting clashes of culture between traditional volunteers (their readers) and the people who move in and out of well paid top charity jobs (presumably Guardian readers). The thing is that Mail readers are probably a good source of charity bequests. I have not yet forgiven the NSPCC and others for the skip load of marketing stuff I had to clear from my mother's flat I assume there are some interesting conversations going on, more following the Mermaids bombshell and I think they will want an angle that will appeal to readers who scroll through in their coffee break.

1984in2019 · 17/06/2019 14:03

Another one ready to donate - thanks for doing this

RussianSpamBot · 17/06/2019 14:02

Well done Sarah. Do let us know as and when you need the donation bucket passed round.

Joisanofthedales · 17/06/2019 13:55

You have my gratitude and a donation when you need it. Flowers

PerkingFaintly · 17/06/2019 13:55

Ahh, Spero – thought I recognised the name.

I'm another long-time fan of your child protection work.

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