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Why are so many women ok with males taking their spaces?

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Throckmorton · 14/06/2019 20:56

I don't get it. Why are so many women falling over themselves to be ok with males taking women's places in sport, in awards (working mum of the year FFS!), all over the shop? All over the NSPCC stuff for eg, it's women on twitter posting how transphobic every one is. I guess what I'm saying is what is making turkeys vote for Christmas? If I see one more TWAW/cis-women-are-transphobic meme on Facebook from otherwise intelligent women I'm going to bloody scream.

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Throckmorton · 14/06/2019 21:45

God it's depressing isn't it. So, on the grounds that many of us are too scared/not in a position to state our thoughts on this openly, is it still worth making little steps and hints, and if so, any ideas? My only strategy at the moment is to repeat when pushed that gender is a load of social conditioning, so I don't buy into any of it.

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JackyHolyoake · 14/06/2019 21:44

The only women who do this are younger than 25 - 30 years mostly and are still seeking the approval of males to validate their existence.

Doyoumind · 14/06/2019 21:41

I'm not convinced there are many who are ok with the sports thing, actually.

The younger ones are naive and woke about the other stuff.

A lot will have been told how disgusting and hateful those who question what's going on are: gaslighting, as above.

OunceOfFlounce · 14/06/2019 21:40

I think were all raised in a patriarchy and internalise misogyny.

Throckmorton · 14/06/2019 21:39

Thanks - so i guess my next question is where are they all hanging out that they've had time to be gaslighed (gaslit?) about this? Is it that some places on social media are just churning this shite out and it's all they see?

And yes indeed to why men aren't ok with it. I just meant that it's women losing their own spaces so you'd think they would be more aware of/upset by it.

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AlwaysTawnyOwl · 14/06/2019 21:38

I find it puzzling too. I blame female socialisation - girls pick up the message that it’s ‘not nice’ to fight for their rights.

callmekalinda · 14/06/2019 21:36

Cool girls

Redshoeblueshoe · 14/06/2019 21:30

All of the above

NoCureForLove · 14/06/2019 21:30

Excellent question.
Also, why are so many men ok with men taking women's spaces???

BertrandRussell · 14/06/2019 21:29

Coercive control.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 14/06/2019 21:28

Gaslighting and grooming - coercive control writ large.

VickyEadie · 14/06/2019 21:25

Oh, wokey cokey cokey...

Gaslighting. It's insidious and people fall for it easily.