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Spectator / James Kirkup on Bergdorf and NSPCC. Nailed it.

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BuzzShitbagBobbly · 14/06/2019 11:18

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/06/munroe-bergdorfs-sacking-and-the-failure-of-the-media

I can't even c'n'p the good bits because it'd be the whole thing!

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MangoesAreMyFavourite · 14/06/2019 20:08

My favourite exam paper setter.
Absolutely nailed it.

boatyardblues · 14/06/2019 19:42

Star for James. Bang on the money every time.

RedToothBrush · 14/06/2019 19:41

There doesn't appear to be a named correspondent for the rehashed BBC article.

Needmoresleep · 14/06/2019 19:29

This new BBC article does not seems to have been written by Ben Hunte despite the LGBTs role description being:

'The LGBT correspondent is a new role to cover stories which reflect the issues and debates surrounding sexuality and gender. You will focus on bringing in original stories and providing insight and analysis on matters impacting the LGBT community in the UK.'

BoreOfWhabylon · 14/06/2019 19:27

Yep, James nailed it again.

JackyHolyoake · 14/06/2019 19:26

I think this is known as a victory for James Kirkup over the BBCs incompetence on this story.

Indeed and one hopes that the silly boy Ben, who wrote that appalling piece yesterday, is being sent on a training course about how to do journalism.

And maybe LOJ should also take note.

RedToothBrush · 14/06/2019 19:19

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48643467
Munroe Bergdorf: NSPCC explains transgender activist decision

I think this is known as a victory for James Kirkup over the BBCs incompetence on this story.

S1naidSucks · 14/06/2019 17:06

Very good read, thank you. I felt very let down at the poor quality of reporting by the BBC. I’m glad it’s not just me.

But it’s not ‘poor quality’, it’s deliberately pro TRA at every single turn. No matter the issue, if there is a trans person connected, they will ALWAYS make the male who identifies as trans appear as some sort of victim. The BBC has a very large percentage of trans workers, in comparison to the percentage of trans in ordinary public life.

Absolutely brilliant article.

donquixotedelamancha · 14/06/2019 17:01

Dear god that is a good article, even by Kirkup's standard.

checkoutno3please · 14/06/2019 16:47

The PR people at NSPCC needs sacking for even considering the appointment in the first place. How can they appoint someone but not fully check them out before hand ! Flies in the face of everything they preach and everything they charge for when you attend some of their costly training events.

I despair with them.

Charity commission should have a close look at them.

BorisBadunov · 14/06/2019 15:20

Very good read, thank you. I felt very let down at the poor quality of reporting by the BBC. I’m glad it’s not just me.

JT is a very courageous woman. That’s why I keep my subscription to the Times.

toomanyleavesonthattree · 14/06/2019 15:14

Insightful, evidence based journalism, showing an inquiring mind and critical thinking.

He's very good at his job.

Popchyk · 14/06/2019 14:56

Simon Fanshawe (co-founder of Stonewall) on Twitter.

"Thanks James - a clear and factual appraisal of this sorry tale".

twitter.com/simonfanshawe?lang=en

Simon Fanshawe has been consistently decent and measured throughout this whole circus.

CadburysTastesVileNow · 14/06/2019 14:24

God but he's good.

Mumfun · 14/06/2019 13:30

Brilliant article. Final question is devastating.

And yes restores my faith in journalism too.

The BBC and Guardian totally exposed to be propaganda machines - truly totalitarian in their approach.

TheAngryLlama · 14/06/2019 13:24

Superb. I have so many issues with the speccie but I’ll keep buying it as long as kirkup’s on board.

Needmoresleep · 14/06/2019 13:19

Assuming I got the answer to the last question correct, Kirkup knows exactly why Janice gets the abuse and he does not. (And he does not think this is acceptable.)

JackyHolyoake · 14/06/2019 13:16

Excellent analysis by James Kirkup!

It will also be interesting to see if he gets any abuse from the usual suspects for writing that article.

[Hint: of course he won't!]

thatdamnwoman · 14/06/2019 13:12

Excellent calm, rational, thorough article. Simple points, straightforward, unarguable. Good stuff.

When are we going to see Stonewall, Maria Miller, Penny Mordaunt, Owen Jones, Mermaids and all the other organisations and individuals who have acted in bad faith held to account?

Popchyk · 14/06/2019 12:46

"Question: what are the differences between Munroe Bergdorf and Janice Turner that might explain the different ways in which they have been treated?"

Yes. Quite.

OrchidInTheSun · 14/06/2019 12:42

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 brilliant as ever James.

The bloody bbc is a shocking partisan organisation that in no way is meeting its statutory obligations to be impartial.

I hope Janice sues the arse off the Independent

StroppyWoman · 14/06/2019 12:36

Janice is amazing to keep going in the face of the abuse she gets. Kirkup is one of the few to recognise it.

Joisanofthedales · 14/06/2019 12:24

Great and truthful article. Flowers for Janice Flowers

SmallHaddockAndChips · 14/06/2019 12:23

Answer = male privilege

JessicaWakefieldSV · 14/06/2019 12:16

I do wonder if Janice can pursue things legally with a couple of those defaming phrases about her. They shouldn’t get away with it.

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