Owen Jones Twitter feed

I think you're absolutely right, only I won't use the word "rights" to describe the demands of these men. Let's call it what it is: a male sexual entitlement movement.

I've finally gotten round to reading Sheila Jeffrey's Unpacking Queer Politics and in light of that much of this is sadly unsurprising.

Public sex as an expression of gay male culture that cannot be questioned, transgressing boundaries as a good in and of itself and no fucks given as to what effect that might have on anybody else , the centering of males and their sexual entitlement - it's all there.

Gay men or straight men if we're not centering their cocks then we're not doing it right.

Why does he speak differently to Laura?

Because Laura is a woman.

Why does he speak differently to Laura?

Compare the two, Monroe/Parker you can see the difference.

Plus: his arms at the beginning.

OJ did interview this female MP Laura Parker. She is not LGBT.

www.theguardian.com/global/video/2019/may/17/labours-laura-parker-farage-winning-would-be-uks-worst-legacy

Two narcissists sat down together for a chat

@ThatCurlyGirl

I gave in and forced myself through the interview.

MB needs to take responsibility for MB. It was made out the issues with L'Oreal and Labour were because of hounding out. If you are going to be a brand in the public eye and you fuck up by tweeting things people pick you up for then that's on you.

Also absolutely NO mention of the safeguarding issue. It was again made out to be because the NSPCC gave into transphobic pressure and the management are all out of touch old men.

At the very end excerpts from the NSPCC statement are used BUT only the bits that say they are sorry and shouldn't have done things the way they did and not the bit that explains why they won't work with MB.

Shoddy, shoddy journalism.

Also, I couldn't take my eyes of MB's teeth. They reminded me of my gran's dentures.

I laughed out loud when MB talked about whenever attending a speaking gig about women and empowerment of women MB is "targetted".

What is happening here is that almost no-one believes MB is a woman and they see the dissonance. It is not MB being "targetted" ti is the fraud that is being enacted that is being targetted.

@BuzzShitbagBobbly

Not in error apologies, I'm aware of the connotations of "cis" but was using the language of OJ in irony - wrote too quickly in anger for this to be clear! I agree it's dehumanising to "other" women by adding an extra term where not needed. Thanks for opportunity to clarify x

Has he ever interviewed any gender critical woman, or non -liberal feminist?

The only woman I have ever seen him interview is Ruth Hunt, CEO of Stonewall.

Sexual deviancy can get you off a murder sentence now.

Monroe for me second class citizen doesn't mean someone who has thousands of pounds spent on private surgery and then they launch a career on it. Unless you are snidely referring to those who have done this to escape from poverty.

Michael Jackson spent thousands of dollars on surgery. He was never considered a second class citizen though.

Monroe what does second class citizen mean?

Could you imagine OJ sitting down like that with, say, Julia Long, and discussing with her what it is like to be persecuted by the GBT community for being a lesbian?

I was about to say much the same. Has he ever interviewed any gender critical woman, or non -liberal feminist? I assume not. His insecurity would be terribly exposed.

But Munroe what does sexual deviant mean anymore?

OJ is certainly on the wrong side of history on this.

If he were to admit what he knew all along that he'd misjudged things, though, his entire world would collapse.

He's built a career and a life on supporting this, so he would lose it all. Not to mentioned the fatal savaging he'd get from everyone he once considered his nearest and dearest (looking especially at people he likes to video his fireside chats with).

So he has no other choice but to ride this out till the bitter end and milk it for everything he can, then hope he doesn't get destroyed in the shitshow when it comes.

Could you imagine OJ sitting down like that with, say, Julia Long, and discussing with her what it is like to be persecuted by the GBT community for being a lesbian?

No, I thought not.

If ever OJ ever admitted that he knows that MB is not a woman that interview nailed it.

ThatCurlyGirl He made an unprofessional and foolish decision to film and share what he did. That is the fact of the matter - having equal consequences to straight cis counterparts is not homophobia or transphobia, it is equality in action.

Not sure if you posted in error or unawareness, but "cis" is an unwelcome term on MN given it's connotations and deliberate/dehumanising/othering usage by TRAs etc.

This is a national scandal. OJ should be removed from The Guardian. He’s completely lost it and I’m struggling to see how he can get away with this. He is abhorrent for defending this man, who openly calls HIMSELF a pervert.

I didn’t think this misogynistic, appalling man could stoop any lower. This is gravely concerning.

Children's boundaries and the protection of them are more important than anything else.

Certainly more important than the Sanctimonious Morph and his endless ignorant rantings.

But hey: if Owen wants to die on the hill of destroying safeguarding, he should go ahead and do it.

Because we won't forget (or forget to archive) everything he's said and done over the last few days.

Oh, and I'd add that it's the queer movement doing this now, having co-opted the gay rights movement and now wearing its skin like Vincent d'Onofrio's alien character in Men in Black.

Children first. NSPCC

That's the priority. Listening OJ?

Putting children first is not

Homophobic

nor is it

Transphobic

And it's not about 'won't somebody think of the children', because this the raison d'etre of the NSPCC.

What does the protection of children on a national level mean?