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Owen Jones sounds off about ‘self described’ feminists

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AlwaysTawnyOwl · 12/06/2019 18:10

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/12/lgbtq-rights-danger-pride-fight-back-homophobic-attacks

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RedToothBrush · 13/06/2019 00:10

Owen Jones @OwenJones84
I look forward to all of those who have argued the very few sympathisers of the main opposition party amongst Britain’s opinion writers aren’t really journalists, and shouldn’t have a media platform, turning their fire on a newspaper which is just Boris Johnson’s propaganda organ

Well Owen, I have talked about this before... and I rather like the tag Journalians that Nick Cohen coined for politicians who pretend to be journalists. And have you ever considered by the Telegraph got its nickname the Torygraph?

Yes Owen, we do criticise others for being commentators not journalists. You are not being fucking persecuted. You aren't special.

(Looks like he's going Grey Rock then...)

terfsandwich · 12/06/2019 22:55

NSPCC probably has "gender neutral" only toilets, or mens and unisex.

AlwaysComingHome · 12/06/2019 22:40

We should post that clip to the NSPCC...

Likeazombi · 12/06/2019 22:40

I used to wank at work sometimes. Im not really sure why now looking back.
What I didn't do was film myself and then link the video to my linked in profile.
What is wrong with these men?
I'm seriously worried about kinks becoming acceptable, especially near children.
Someone I know shared a link on Facebook yesterday of oj slamming Boris for his racist remarks and being let go from positions.
The worst thing about oj is that he's a massive fucking hypocrite.

FermatsTheorem · 12/06/2019 22:37

In the week where Oxfam is finally being held to account for sexual assault/rape/sexual harrassment perpetrated by their staff from really senior levels all the way down to their high street stores, it beggars belief that someone with even half a brain could look at a situation where the country's biggest charity for children, with a special interest in safeguarding, turns out to have a senior member of staff (responsible for safeguarding) wanking in the staff toilets, filming it, and posting it online in such a way that it was easily searchable, and immediately think that the biggest problem with this situation was "kink shaming."

I thought Owen Jones was merely a misogynist. Now I am forced to the conclusion that he is thick as mince to boot.

Still, if this is what's going on behind the scenes at the NSPCC, it explains a hell of a lot about that no-show car crash of a webchat on here a few years back.

Lordamighty · 12/06/2019 22:37

This is one story I do hope the papers pick up & print.

AlwaysComingHome · 12/06/2019 22:35

My mistake. It was Big Train

TemporaryPermanent · 12/06/2019 22:33

It was Big Train. Great sketch.

DuMondeB · 12/06/2019 22:33

With the push towards all-gender-neutral, he’ll soon be wanking next to men and women (and non-binary people).

AlwaysComingHome · 12/06/2019 22:32

I'm sure masturbating at work happens a lot.

Only if you are a sperm donor.

Remember Smack the Pony? Didn’t Glinner write a sketch about an office where they banned wanking at their desks?

BlackForestCake · 12/06/2019 22:27

It's weird how quickly this story has gone from "Munroe is not an appropriate champion for the NSPCC" to "Holy shit, what is going on at the NSPCC is much worse than Munroe"

FromEden · 12/06/2019 22:21

Well I don't think men should have to be in a cubicle next to a colleague in rubber pissing and wanking either. That's got to be uncomfortable.

MenstruatorExtraordinaire · 12/06/2019 22:15

And this is what women are worried about. Because this man in his fetish gear wanking in the toilets and posting it online could at any point decide actually he identifies as a woman on Wednesdays and wants to access the women's toilets to wank in his fetish gear. In fact it's only the fact that this man is gay that has probably saved this from happening as he doesn't want to be in the women's toilets. But he could access them if he wanted to and be feted for it.

EmpressLesbianInChair · 12/06/2019 22:04

But then I'm not sure he thinks of women as people. Not like him anyway.

Which is how we know he doesn’t actually believe MB, LM & co are women.

TemporaryPermanent · 12/06/2019 21:46

I'm sure masturbating at work happens a lot. Meh. British productivity figures aren't great but, hey, work to live not live to work. (Can wanking be included in GDP figures somehow?)

Masturbating at work, filming it and posting it online in a way that obviously is findable by others (that's kind of what online is, after all) is just plain stupid. I would expect to be on a knife edge at work at the very least.

Filming your personal kink and demonstrating that you don't acknowledge any boundary between your work for a children's organisation and your cock needs is really worrying. Sacking would be about the least I'd expect.

Then be shown to leap to employ controversialists who don't understand safeguarding for the same children's charity? This is just horrible corruption. I hope Peter Wanless reviews the entire organisational culture, particularly the employment of a Celebrity Manager - don't recall that from the fundraising adverts.

RedToothBrush · 12/06/2019 21:35

Tbf working Owen up into a frenzy about how you spell LGBTQ isn't difficult. Just say the word 'persecutated' turn the clockwork key in his back, and point him in the right direction and your laughing. It's not like he checks anything out with that tin head of his.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 12/06/2019 21:35

and I think we'd all like to extend a vote of thanks to the person who wielded that mouse head

OvaHere · 12/06/2019 21:34

I'm guessing the person who screenshot it covered the bits.

terfsandwich · 12/06/2019 21:32

Did James put that video on twitter? Has someone put a mouse face over his bits and they're visible in the original, or did he cute-mouse-face himself?

littlbrowndog · 12/06/2019 21:31

Yeah it’s like ffs who films themselves wanking on way to work and then tells everybody

Someone who doesn’t have a clue abou5 boundaries

FloralBunting · 12/06/2019 21:30

Yeah, who knew, eh? The trick to really getting your sexual exhibitionism accepted and lauded by Guardian opinion writers is to pick the most respected Children's charity to do it in, rather than the NUS.

SirVixofVixHall · 12/06/2019 21:28

Bloody Hell . That is not only really misplaced and grim, but also entirely misreading the nation. I can’t imagine anyone I know, on being told about said rubber man and his er “habits” at the NSPCC , would go “ oh well, whatever he likes to do in the loos at work is fine by me” .
Imagine being his colleague ! You wouldn’t want to risk the lavs at lunchtime in case Mr Rubber was in there with his wanger in one hand and a camera in the other.

OvaHere · 12/06/2019 21:25

My flabber is gasted this evening.

Jess Bradley must be kicking themselves that they didn't apply to the NSPCC instead.

RedToothBrush · 12/06/2019 21:21

But anyway , I am struggling to grasp this, is this the situation ? a man masturbates in rubber fetish wear at his place of work, which happens to be OUR NATIONAL CHILDREN’S CHARITY , and Owen is saying anyone who wants him sacked is a pearl clutching homophobe ?

No I don't think you are struggling to grasp the situation at all. I think you have it fully figured out in all its glory.

Obviously a straight man doing this would be greeted as just fine and dandy to us all here, according to the same logic of young Owen.

SirVixofVixHall · 12/06/2019 21:14

DuMondeB hahahaha.
That Julia HB video is highly amusing, OJ huffs and puffs , pouts, crosses his arms , he is like the most spoilt boy in year six.

But anyway , I am struggling to grasp this, is this the situation ? a man masturbates in rubber fetish wear at his place of work, which happens to be OUR NATIONAL CHILDREN’S CHARITY , and Owen is saying anyone who wants him sacked is a pearl clutching homophobe ?