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Guardian editorial

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Gone2far · 11/06/2019 05:45

[https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/10/the-guardian-view-on-identities-in-conflict-dealing-with-differences?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium=&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1560189006 this]
Perhaps the most mealy mouthed editorial I've read from the Guardian. They really don't want to accept that their approach on these issues might be wrong and pissing off readers (those they have left)

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ThePurportedDoctoress · 11/06/2019 08:58

"Recent attacks on lesbians provide shocking proof of rising intolerance, fuelled by populists and hostile public discourse"
Followed by a photo of a bearded policeman with a rainbow flag.
It kind of says it all, doesn't it.

And I'm sick of this "bad people on both sides" bullshit. Just look at the latest - TRAs sending Jean Hatchet, a cancer survivor, pictures of scans and asking people to knock her off her bike.

Timefortea4 · 11/06/2019 08:55

I think they're very nervous of a backlash from their American staff and readers (there was one when they published an editorial acknowledging a possible rights conflict the day that the GRA consultation closed). Wonder how many female readers they have lost. I grew up reading The Guardian. Buying The Times and Telegraph now. They're making a difference (I spoke to a senior Guides volunteer and she had read about the change to the Scouts safeguarding policy in The Times. Coverage matters!)

Daughterofmabel · 11/06/2019 08:24

pathetic

OldCrone · 11/06/2019 07:51

Note that they think “reassigned gender” is a protected characteristic.

At least they didn't say "gender identity". But both "reassigned gender" and "gender reassignment" give the impression that some meaningful "reassignment" has to have taken place. They don't immediately bring to mind some bloke with stubble who has put on a dress, shouted "I'm a laydee", and physically attacked a woman.

HipTightOnions · 11/06/2019 07:19

Note that they think “reassigned gender” is a protected characteristic.

franke · 11/06/2019 07:18

Totally agree. Weasel words wrapped up in a lame editorial.

"The argument between trans activists and feminists regarding proposed legal reforms has unfortunately become extremely bitter. Both groups feel their identities and beliefs are threatened by each other."

Such a trite way to describe the threat to women.

I've been disappointed with the Guardian for a long time now, but this is the final nail. I also note comments are not open for this piece, as usual Hmm

RiversDisguise · 11/06/2019 07:12

Odious, truth-averse rag, happy to dodge tax and label the bulk of the UK population fascists.

EverardDigby · 11/06/2019 07:04

I won't give the Guardian clicks, and I used to be a subscriber. The Times now gets my money.

HandsOffMyRights · 11/06/2019 06:40

How ironic, Guardian, when you are complicit in this.

You incite violence towards women with your complete support for TRAs.

What a simplistic editorial. Butter wouldn't melt. And how convenient you fail to mention the regressive gender ideology being taught in schools by Moffatt, Stonewall and co.

It's like the "there's violence on both sides" spiel when we know that it's women who are being silence, attacked and doxxed.

And The Guardian, which has called women, womxn, reported Julie Bindel's attack as her fault, has gaslit a nation by refusing to name the hulking elephant in the room, has the audacity to refer to authoritarian, right wing regimes.

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