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Jameela Jamil

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breakfastpizza · 09/06/2019 18:26

Jameela is tweeting about the NSPCC dropping Munroe Bergdorf. She's a celeb who's gone all out about "body positivity" but is apparently unable to see the irony in telling kids they might be born in the wrong body.

She's also a self-proclaimed "feminist-in-progress", yet she calls women who object to male bodies having unrestricted access to female safe spaces "a bunch of transphobic cis women".

What a feminist you are, Jameela! Way to support your sisters, who, you know, actually have to deal with men invading their spaces, while you swan around above it all.

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ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 10/06/2019 10:34

I think she's a 'if we are just a bit nicer to men, they'll be nice to us' feminist.

If it works for her, great. She shouldn't be criticising women and organisations for not being the same sort of feminists. She needs to realise that not all men respond how she thinks they will, and some women, children and organisations need more protection.

RuffleCrow · 10/06/2019 10:25

Oh no ,Jameela. If you're reading this you've just lost another fan Sad. I used to think you were awesome.

bettybeans · 10/06/2019 10:21

She seems like she has genuinely good intentions but she's clearly so busy trying to remain on brand that she doesn't have time to research and reflect on the causes she's jumping into. "This one looks straightforward, in we go!" Eh, no. Do your reading, Jameela. You're making a bit of a twit of yourself.

Fibbke · 10/06/2019 10:10

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KettlePolly · 10/06/2019 10:08

I'm a bit in love with her and think she's brilliant in The Good Place and has done a great job calling out bullshit on all sorts ... So my heart sank a bit to see her boinging to MBs defence and slagging off those who objected as being transphobic. It's basically internalised misogyny, swerving away from centering women and their biology and the endemic discrimination based on that, including the bare fact that pornified looks/porn and sex work are saturated in patriarchy and oppression, and that to be ok with that is to be complicit, which isn't to shame sex workers but to see the whole picture and normalising it is to put vulnerable young people at a greater risk. Let alone the safeguarding problems. Safeguarding really matters. There must be a million other better LGBT+ representatives for the charity to work with. No one's saying there shouldn't be representatives, high profile ones sure, but just not MB.

Quietlife333 · 09/06/2019 21:52

She has nothing of any value to add at the moment. Maybe she will get it together. Tbh I think she is just going along with what’s “on trend.”

NewarkShark · 09/06/2019 21:48

I’m really angry with her. I dislike Munroe Bergdorf for ignorant and offensive comments such as centring reproductive systems in feminism being “reductive” but I personally wasn’t going to go on the warpath about her being a Childline advocate, even if there are plenty of trans people (God forbid, even a trans man) who would be better advocates to reach out to gender questioning youngsters.

But to call Janice Turner a “transphobic mess” for raising the concerns which she did? You’re no feminist Jameela. To coin a phrase your misogynist friends like to use, do better.

stayingstrange · 09/06/2019 21:47

While we all say dumb shit when we're young, I personally have never forgiven her for this comment she made a few years ago:

Jamil tweeted: ‘Catherine Zeta-Jones has just been admitted to rehab for bipolar disorder. I GUARANTEE it’s just the menopause! Makes 40+ crazy'.

I am very cynical about her.

Twooter · 09/06/2019 21:37

I went off her when she complimented Eliza Doolittle on her show once, saying her dress looked like a nightie ( or something similar - it was a long time ago) . Just seemed an incredibly bitchy thing to say.

TacoLover · 09/06/2019 21:31

Can we stop with all the "why is she a role model, she's so skinny🙄" comments please. She's been very vocal about how she used to have an eating disorder and that's why she started trying to raise awareness in the first place. It's absolutely fine to disagree with her as I do myself but please stop with the unnecessary spiteful comments.

PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 09/06/2019 21:18

Young lesbians in particular need someone on their side

So true @Aspley

Still a colossal self harm rate amongst lesbian teens and early twenties, shocking

MissLadyM · 09/06/2019 20:50

I'm bloody sick of her. She searches for things to moan about to get her name in the papers. Such an attention seeker moaner!

Outofinspiration · 09/06/2019 20:37

She is one of these 'I'm so open minded my brains have fallen out' types.

Aspley · 09/06/2019 20:33

Wokeness is a dangerous drug. It seems to make intelligence vanish.
A quick Google of MB should have raise concerns about them doing this role.
There are surely dozens of better role models? Trans, lesbian and gay. Young lesbians in particular need someone on their side.

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TheBestNapIEverHad · 09/06/2019 19:56

Her brand of feminism seems to consist mainly of attacking other models and vacuous celebrities on twitter. She’s not exactly blazing a trail. So this doesn’t surprise me.

BrienneofTarthILoveYou · 09/06/2019 19:53

Exactly what you said @MrsScamander

MrsScamander · 09/06/2019 19:48

I followed her as well. Really respected her stance on body confidence and thought she was a great role model.

Unfollowed her as well, I am not cis. Women don't have penises. It's not transphobic to protest the employment of a misogynist, lesbophobic racist at a children's charity.

Fibbke · 09/06/2019 19:47

Has monroe been dropped?

handbaghoarderr · 09/06/2019 19:45

I don't think I know who she is, but she sounds very tiring.

ComeTheFuck0nBridget · 09/06/2019 19:21

I was sure it wasn't too long ago, not long before her interview with Sam Smith when she seemed to be on the other side of the argument? What's caused her change of opinion?

misscockerspaniel · 09/06/2019 19:15

Is it Childline and/or the NSPCC who has dropped MB?

ICanTuckMyBoobsInMyPockets · 09/06/2019 19:03

It's all good talking about body positivity when you're 6ft and a size 4 🙄

ThePestOfTheYear · 09/06/2019 19:01

Sorry, I have literally no idea who any of these people are. I hope it all works out though.

LadyFatboobs · 09/06/2019 18:58

Yeah I find her problematic as well, I appreciate what she’s trying to do, I really do, but when the message gets lost on the bid to take gold in the Woke Olympics I find myself sighing internally and clicking “unfollow”.

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