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Jameela Jamil

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breakfastpizza · 09/06/2019 18:26

Jameela is tweeting about the NSPCC dropping Munroe Bergdorf. She's a celeb who's gone all out about "body positivity" but is apparently unable to see the irony in telling kids they might be born in the wrong body.

She's also a self-proclaimed "feminist-in-progress", yet she calls women who object to male bodies having unrestricted access to female safe spaces "a bunch of transphobic cis women".

What a feminist you are, Jameela! Way to support your sisters, who, you know, actually have to deal with men invading their spaces, while you swan around above it all.

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KettlePolly · 11/06/2019 09:02

On a tangent does anyone know how Magdalen Berns is doing? I know she was very poorly. Her videos are so brilliant, clear, concise and bloody funny.

KettlePolly · 11/06/2019 00:56

That'll be the one thanks.

DuMondeB · 11/06/2019 00:41

This one?

m.youtube.com/watch?v=bnrOLhx6L3c

KettlePolly · 11/06/2019 00:35

I wish I could locate the Magdalen Bern's video where she tackles "intersectionality" and how it's just putting more work into women's laps.

HermioneWeasley · 10/06/2019 20:19

I’m starting the think her stupidly vacuous role in the Good Place isn’t acting at all...

NewarkShark · 10/06/2019 19:16

I don’t mind the sentiment of that pinned tweet so much as the ridiculously sanctimonious tone

Haworthia · 10/06/2019 18:31

I just mozied over to Jameela’s Twitter account. Her pinned tweet:

It is never too late to check yourself and right your wrongs. I used to be slut shamey, judgmental, and my feminism wasn’t intersectional enough. Nobody is born perfectly “woke”. Listen, read, learn, grow, change and make room for everyone. We aren’t free til ALL of us are free.

It’s just so try hard Hmm Maybe I’m the bad person for rolling my eyes, but I’m afraid whenever I heard a woman earnestly virtue signalling about how intersectional her feminism is, I know her feminism just ain’t going to be compatible with mine.

OvaHere · 10/06/2019 18:15

My main problem with Jameela is that she doesn’t seem to have any opinions of her own. That’s why she’s so desperately woke - she just ends up agreeing with the libfems or the SJWs or the transactivicts - whoever piles on her the hardest

Sounds rather like her Good Place character. I'm beginning to see why she was hired.

breakfastpizza · 10/06/2019 18:12

@QueenOfTheTofuTree Munroe is 'stunning' and 'brave' for merely existing!

Unlike us poor uterus-havers who have to slog through life dealing with boring old everyday sexism, lower pay, domestic violence, periods, unwanted attention (and touching) from sex pests, childbirth, etc. We just don't get Munroe's struggle.

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QueenOfTheTofuTree · 10/06/2019 18:04

What exactly has Munroe Bergdorf done to be considered important and brilliant? Has Jameela Jamil answered that?

SirVixofVixHall · 10/06/2019 17:29

When the whole mermaids thing comes crashing down in the manner of Kids Company, I wonder what Jameela will say then ? Has anyone pointed out that Mimmymum took Miranda to court, and it was thrown out ?

Haworthia · 10/06/2019 17:25

Ohhh, “mimmymum” is the woman who took Miranda Yardley to court for transphobia? Nice one, Jameela 🤦‍♀️

SunsetBeetch · 10/06/2019 17:17

Oh my days.

"Exceptional, detailed, factual and important thread from @mimmymum about Anti-Trans campaigners. It’s so amazing to see the anti-trans campaigns broken down and exposed here. Let’s circulate the SHIT out of this thread. ❤️"

twitter.com/jameelajamil/status/1137865145890222081?s=19

EarClipper · 10/06/2019 15:41

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EarClipper · 10/06/2019 15:41

My main problem with Jameela is that she doesn’t seem to have any opinions of her own. That’s why she’s so desperately woke - she just ends up agreeing with the libfems or the SJWs or the transactivicts - whoever piles on her the hardest

Yes! It's so transparent. Grown a spine, woman.

SirVixofVixHall · 10/06/2019 15:37

I was reading some tweets of hers yesterday, she was talking about “little transchildren “ with no irony. Hmm

Callmejudith · 10/06/2019 14:29

She infuriates me.

GottaGetUp · 10/06/2019 13:16

I think Jameela Jamil suffers a bit from the difference between the US and the UK. Here, we have the government and various authorities falling over themselves to be ‘inclusive’. In the US, Trump et al are enacting actual transphobic policies, banning trans people from the military etc. Which makes it very hard to challenge the progressive hegemony of support for the trans agenda.

Here, while it’s frustrating that every politician seems to have bought into the nonsense, it frees gender critical feminists from being immediately lumped in with the ‘baddies’. It still happens, but there is much more nuance available when it is (at least partially, compared to thre US) separated from left/right politics.

The thing that made me drop Jamil was when she back tracked on something she said about the plastic surgery industry. She got told off because trans people require a lot of plastic surgery to be their ‘true selves’ and they shouldn’t be shamed for that...

DuMondeB · 10/06/2019 12:58

Are we still waiting for the NSPC to do their promised web chat?

Yes. I was actually hoping they might send Bergdorf to do it 🤷‍♀️

RedToothBrush · 10/06/2019 12:51

Jameela has an image to think about.

Safeguarding isn't gonna give you great publicity and improve your media profile.

Jameela is all about Jameela. She has to publish her woke liberal identity creditials to be in the cool gang.

It's like high school, when you have to say and do things to be in with the popular kids.

I always thought kids like that with no spine werent worth spending a second thought on.

Haworthia · 10/06/2019 12:50

My main problem with Jameela is that she doesn’t seem to have any opinions of her own. That’s why she’s so desperately woke - she just ends up agreeing with the libfems or the SJWs or the transactivicts - whoever piles on her the hardest whenever she says something they object to. It’s all a bit pathetic - she simpers and apologises and vows to do better next time.

I believe Jameela got dogpiled by TRAs a while ago for talking about women's biology being the source of our oppression, and has since 'educated herself' and 'learned to do better'.

Exactly that, yes! Grin

She also got roasted by Stephanie Yeboah, who got her friends involved, and actually it all got very nasty and very personal, she was accused of being racist etc etc. Jameela just simpered and apologised, when she could have quite justifiably told the whole lot of them to go fuck themselves. It’s was some of the worst bullying I’d seen on Twitter. On the plus side, I now give Stephanie Yeboah’s writing a swerve when I see it.

MrsDumpty · 10/06/2019 12:43

Jameela Jamil is the embodiment of the liberal snake eating its own - she is always tying herself in knots with how 'woke' she is, starting with the fact as pp says, she's a former model who's trying to push 'body positivity'. Also she recently defended Russell Brand on Instagram after going on his podcast (for which many of her followers slammed her).

Frusty · 10/06/2019 12:41

Are we still waiting for the NSPC to do their promised web chat?

ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 10/06/2019 12:28

Basically, people who follow FPFW don’t care about children because they don’t follow the NSPCC on twitter

But that activism for some - who you follow, like, and retweet on twitter is all that matters.

Considering that most referrals to clinics are female, a trans man would be far more relatable than someone who persona is 'feminity' - the very thing these trans boys are rejecting.

NewarkShark · 10/06/2019 12:18

She has now shared an exceptionally weak thread by Mimmymum, which she describes as “exceptional”. Basically, people who follow FPFW don’t care about children because they don’t follow the NSPCC on twitter (or something). I don’t follow FPFW as it happens, but nor do I follow any charities on Twitter. They’re just not the sorts of accounts that interest me, even the charities I am passionate about don’t have interesting twitter accounts.

As i said above, my starting point is there are better trans ambassadors than Munroe but I wasn’t as bothered as others were, so I’ve no particular skin in this game. But the analysis and argument in that thread is atrocious. I’m a barrister and would relish the opportunity to cross examine her on it - it would be the easiest of my career. It’s just utter shite, devoid of any intellectual reasoning. The fact Jameela Jamil thinks it’s “exceptional” just shows she isn’t interested in intelligent analysis and just takes the path she thinks is most woke.

Jameela, if you’re reading, I would love to hear you say why I’m “anti-trans” because I found any penis belonging to someone I don’t know triggering after I was raped, and how it makes you a feminist. Because such are the views of the people you’ve chosen to get into bed with.

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