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People ARE aware and thinking about the trans agenda. And they don't like it.

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Lamaha · 09/06/2019 12:09

I live a very quiet, rural life and rarely meet new people. My close family know I am GC and so do a few friends, but I would never open the subject with a stranger.

At present though I am at a gathering of about 16 people at a country house; I've never met any of them before. Yesterday I went for a walk with three of them: a man from Dublin, a woman from Santa Fe, USA, and a woman who lives at the Barbicon, London. A very disparate group; I had known them only a few days. All aged in their 50's or 60's.

We were having a nice normal chat when out of the blue, the American began talking about pronouns, and how you now had to say they and them for everyone, and how she hated it. The man immediately leaped in. He was very angry about this, because, in his work, he is required to use certain pronouns and he thinks it totally ridiculous. "If you don't," he said, "they will come after you like a pack of raging mad dogs. It's terrible!" He was utterly furious. The Barbicon woman jumped in to explain about the alphabet salad and how ridiculous it all was. She reeled off all the letters and told us what each one was.
I was so delighted! I think over the next few days there might be a few rather interesting discussions! I already promised the American the Rohypnol link...
See, the word is spreading; people know, and are forming their own opinions, silently, stealthily. We will win - it can't be otherwise.
People are more awake than we might think -- even random strangers might very well be sharing our opinions. It's wonderful to find them.

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iismum · 09/06/2019 12:22

My super-woke friend has moved from saying that in ten years this won't even be up for discussion and I'll look back in wonder at what an outdated bigot I was, to fretting that the far right are successfully detailing the advance of trans rights. No amount of discussing my political background or that of most prominent advocates for women's rights can get him to admit this is not just about the far right, but he's clearly sensing a real shift in the narrative and is freaking out about it.

Aspley · 09/06/2019 12:20

Hence why the TRA's are so desperate for "no debate". Why they are so desperate to stop women speaking at events and getting us (including myself) banned from twitter.
They know they have no acceptable arguments that the public will accept. The current momentum groups like WPUK (and Mumsnet here) have terrifies them as they know that the public will not accept males in the female prison estate, the public know lesbians do not have penises etc etc.

Right now most of the public are unaware of this nonsense and the TRA want to keep them that way. Unfortunately for them the dams are breaking and people are starting to talk

DJLippy · 09/06/2019 12:20

Everyone I have spoken to irl has come round to the realisation it's total BS. Sometimes it takes a few talks - there is a lot of social conditioning to unpick and the more "proressive" you are the harder it is to wake up. Funnily enough the more "educated" someone is the longer it takes.

Floomph · 09/06/2019 12:17

I was sitting in a restaurant recently. There was a party of about 10 women sitting together at the next door table. One of them started a conversation about how women's rights were being eroded and how she hated the worst of the TRA behaviour because of how violent and initimidating it was. They were all agreeing.

I was sitting there thinking 'solidarity.' I didn't want to freak her out by letting on I was listening in or else I'd have gone over to them and said 'I feel exactly the same.'

EverardDigby · 09/06/2019 12:15

Yeah I have a very non-political friend who works with someone NB. She decided in a very open minded way to educate herself and concluded it's batshit. I didn't bring it up, she did.

Lumene · 09/06/2019 12:15

Yes. The lobbying and change behind the scenes has been extraordinarily successful. But it hasn’t taken the public with it and is now falling apart for that reason.

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