Jon Ronson defends pornography

Great post DJLippy . Agree entirely.

How does anyone feel satisfied sexually after watching porn?

I just don't get it.

Have they no imagination?

As an aside, here's Traci Lords on the early life experiences that led her to doing porn as a teenager back in the pre-pornhub days

transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0307/14/lkl.00.html

twitter.com/jonronson/status/1137085036719742976?s=19

Yep, he refers to "anti-porn ideologues" in a tweet. Sorry phone won't let me link to it.

Mr Ronson doesn't want to see the harm that pornography causes. Whilst he admits that some porn is abusive he goes on to defend the institution insisting that it's the fault of bad producers and agents.

When challenged by feminists about the abused women and broader harms to society he leapt to the same old arguments - how dare you suggest porn stars are victims - many of them LOVE their job. I'm sorry serious side eye to any guy who says shit like that. If you're a woman you understand - as much as you might like sex the stuff depicted in porn - that's extreme. Shooting that all day long - nope sorry I don't think any woman would stay aroused for that. The cheek of a man lecturing women when he's never been a woman and experienced misogony. Lord gove me the confidence of a mediocre white man.

He proceeded to straw man those who opposed him as pearl clutching moralists. He's swallowed the lib fem empowerment (don't listen to them nasty SWERFs) BS without bothering to check our actual positons.

He kept banging on about how he doesn't judge sex workers. He got very defensive when it was suggested he let strangers penetrate him on camera. Funny that. Obviously has never spoken to a "SWERF" because none of them judge the women involved - for God's sake many of them have worked in the industry - getting literally fucked by the patriarchy does have a funny habit of radicalising you.

I can't believe that someone who had made 2 documentaries about the industry has failed to research the work of experts such as Gail Dines. Or think more clearly about the harms that porn does more braodly. Lesbians are being attacked for refusing to perform for men, school girls are having anal prolapses because porn has normailed anal sex, men are literallly getting away with murdering their partners and blaming it on a "sex game gone" wrong. He spent a good long while praising the "balanced" comments of those defending porn and casitgating feminists as simple headed zealouts. Go and check out his twitter feed and you will see what I mean.

He wants to be a nice guy while he continues to get off on films of women being abused. Nope. Sorry it's not going to happen. Quit shilling for porn hub. We see you.

He likes nuance and complex explanations, I don't think he's a good match with Twitter!

I think if you knew his work, or even if you are academic/scientist you can see the difference between an explanation and a judgement. The internet has normalised a lot of things, good and bad and I'm not surprised more teens think it might be a career choice, that's a really sad thing and wrong on many levels, but we can't argue against something if we can't understand why it's happening.

I saw him on his recent tour. I'd not read The Butterfly Effect or The Last Days of Autumn so had no preconceptions about what he was going to talk about. He did not give any impression at all of defending porn. He was completely sympathetic to the complex reasons about what drives women to get involved.

Reading the thread on twitter sounds to me like he thinks it's a OK awesome tbh

I don't know he is though the only Jon Robson I know is the guy who did the song with Amy winehouse

After listening to the butterfly effect, it's clear that Jon doesn't approve of the business model of porn hub.

But I think he glossed over the abuse that's always been in porn. Pretending that the old school dvd producing industry was any better for the women involved is a lie.

Jon Ronson is reporting changing attitudes to porn, not celebrating them.

Or you could read this tweet where he says that pointing out that pornhob has made pornography a more viable career choice for children doesn’t mean he’s ok with that and in fact he very much isn’t.

🤢 What has happened to Jon Ronson ? Has the move to America addled his mind ?
This is the dirty undercurrent of lefty “feminist” men....

That comment from porn-supporting Trixiebelle saying there's dignity in all work. But is there dignity in sex, as work or not? Sex had never struck me as being dignified, but maybe it's just the way I do it.

I think he's deleted this one, but it's dreadful. I'm really starting to distrust all men who think they are good feminists because they support "TWAW" and "SWIW". So many of them strike me as incredibly creepy and misogynistic.