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The feeling of makeup

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Erythronium · 05/06/2019 23:56

Sort of an addition to the other current makeup threads. I wonder if anybody else has experienced this.

When I wore makeup, I didn't like the feel of it. I had liquid eyeliner that stung my eyes, mascara whose fibres used to get in my eyes and make them water, lipstick which sometimes felt horrible on my lips and was unpleasantly perfumed. Foundation was weird when it dried on my skin and powder used to be cakey and not very pleasant either. I already said on one of the other threads that I didn't like the feeling of nail varnish on my nails which is why I never painted them, nothing to do with any feminist analysis at the time.

Andrea Dworkin said that beauty practices were pain but I'd also add that they are uncomfortable. Not bad enough to stop you doing it, but enough to always make you aware that you are wearing makeup and really, that it's not very nice.

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Erythronium · 06/06/2019 15:17

I"ve covered the "wrong makeup" thing already. Lots of different brands all had the same effect.

The idea that some makeup wouldn't be like this reminds me of the one you used to hear about Jimmy Choo shoes when they were popular - that they didn't hurt like other high heeled shoes. I almost fell for that, I have to admit.

The tone of the post below was patronising. It isn't just a case of noticing it but apparently of being too brainwashed to do anything about it other than "enduring" it. It's very infantilising attitude to take about other women.

Well she was right, at least about me. Weirdly, even though it applies to me I don't feel either patronised or infantalised. I was following a social norm without thinking about it, that isn't being brainwashed.

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borntobequiet · 06/06/2019 15:10

Nails are porous:
sites.psu.edu/siowfa15/2015/09/14/is-nail-polish-harmful-to-your-health/

LunaMay · 06/06/2019 14:14

Wow, I never the mention the nail varnish thing cause I thought it was just me being odd! Heavy and suffocating feeling is how I would describe it also.

I have no issues with other make up and generally forget I've put it on, I don't feel it on my face.

3timeslucky · 06/06/2019 13:34

I thought it was just me ... I tried various foundation/BB/CC/tinted creams but no matter how light they're supposed to be I feel that I can feel them and that my skin can't breathe. But I always use a moisturiser and I don't get the same feeling from it at all.

stayathomer · 06/06/2019 13:27

I always thought that until I started wearing make up that was suited to skin, eyes etc, now is never look back!

spanishwife · 06/06/2019 13:22

Sounds like you were using the wrong makeup.

When I have mine on I forget about it, it feels like nothing on my skin.

I actually prefer to wear nail varnish for comfort as it strengthens and protects my very weak brittle nails!

Antibles · 06/06/2019 13:16

What I really notice in the evenings is a bra. I don't seem to notice it all day, then I think I get tired and irritable and want the bloody thing off.

I remember really, really noticing a bra when I first had to wear one (or society starting telling me I had to, anyway) and being miserable about it. Then I suppose I got used to it.

LassOfFyvie · 06/06/2019 13:03

I also don't think it's offensive or patronising to notice that at least some of us find the feel of makeup uncomfortable or unpleasant, even though we wear it/have worn it. Those are just facts

The tone of the post below was patronising. It isn't just a case of noticing it but apparently of being too brainwashed to do anything about it other than "enduring" it. It's very infantilising attitude to take about other women.

I'd assumed everyone else got that horrible feeling, but endured it for the sake of fashion/beauty

As you can see from here plenty of women don't feel anything and those who do moderate their use accordingly.

I have to wear reading glasses. I loathe them with a passion. I really notice them.

Antibles · 06/06/2019 12:25

I've never noticed makeup when I wear it, but then I only really wear eyeshadow and pencil liner some days.

I don't notice nail varnish when I occasionally wear it.

What I didn't used to like was the feeling of dry skin I get after a bath or shower and I would feel I needed to put moisturiser on. However, when suffering a skin condition (which turned out to be a reaction to a food intolerance) I stopped using all products on my face to see if it would make a difference. Funnily enough, after a couple of weeks I got used to that temporary tight feeling after washing, and now I don't seem to need to moisturise. Likewise, when I stopped using powder to blot a shiny nose, my nose is in fact less shiny. I do wonder if using some products actually creates the need for them in some way.

Since I changed my diet after discovering my food intolerance my complexion is also loads better - smoother and less ruddy, to the point that I was complimented on my skin for the first time in my life. So the best ever makeup for me has been to eat differently.

ZiggyB · 06/06/2019 12:12

I generally only feel makeup if I rub it into my eyes when I’m tired. Otherwise I don’t notice it.

I wouldn’t wear it if it felt horrible.

expatinspain · 06/06/2019 12:06

I only 'feel' make up if I'm using a foundation that doesn't suit my skin, then it can feel heavy or oily. The only thing I've used that's made me conscious of it are false eyelashes. I've only worn them two or three times in my life and I felt like my eyelids were being pulled down. Nail varnish doesn't feel any different to not wearing it.

cherryblossomgin · 06/06/2019 12:05

I stopped wearing makeup because it feels restrictive. I like being able to touch my face and rub my eyes. I also end up with spots. I spent my 20s with sore eyes, losing eyelashes and bad breakouts due to having to wear make up to feel like me but I stopped just before I turned 30.

hazeyjane · 06/06/2019 12:01

I am usually hyper sensitive to smells and labels and clothes that feel wierd etc but I can honestly say that I have never felt make up (unless I have an allergic reaction to it). I wear full foundation, cover stick, powder, eye liner, shadow, mascara etc...I don't feel any difference (physically) with it on or off.

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resisterpersister · 06/06/2019 11:51

But ... but ... what is there to feel? I don't get that one, at all. How can it feel any different to not wearing nail varnish?

The first time I ever used nail varnish was an an adult, I was surprised by that too! I didn't expect to be able to feel it at all. But I'm definitely conscious of it on my nails. It's as if they can't breathe, kinda! It's smothering, like Erythronium said. It's an unpleasant feeling.

TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole · 06/06/2019 11:45

Maybe I don;t feel it as such, but givne its such a rare occasion for me to wear any, its on my mind. So I feel it as I am thinking about it in the back of my head, or something Hmm Mascara I can definitely physically feel though.

TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole · 06/06/2019 11:44

Yeah I can feel it when its on, even when I just have a tiny bit on, its weird really. However, try as I might, I still cannot bring myself to go to parties and such without makeup on. Even though it feels awful and I think I shouldn't be pressured into wearing it, which I am not really but still am too!

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 06/06/2019 11:34

No i cant feel makup...with two exceptions

I dont wear lipstick very often so when i do it does feel funny

Some of the thicker mascara make my eyelashes feel heavy...i don’t notice it with most of them

Erythronium · 06/06/2019 10:42

I just looked up the baking method for foundation RWB. Now that's someone who is using too much powder!

I don't like the feeling of nail varnish drying either. I find it cold though. The smell of nail varnish remover is also very unpleasant - poisonous chemicals.

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RagingWhoreBag · 06/06/2019 10:32

But ... but ... what is there to feel? I don't get that one, at all. How can it feel any different to not wearing nail varnish?

Certainly with gel polish I can feel it - there’s a tightness when the polish is curing (and the heat - almost a burning sensation too)but even afterwards it feels a bit numb and clumsy. I don’t go for nail extensions, just colour on my short nails, but the added thickness means they aren’t as useful, you’re always conscious of chipping them so you don’t DO as much, they are useless for picking at things etc!! They definitely feel physically different but it’s also the being conscious of the way they look v what they can do that is limiting.

RagingWhoreBag · 06/06/2019 10:29

The whole baked foundation business is something I can’t understand, especially as it’s mainly young already beautiful girls wearing it (and drag queens of course!). Just absolutely slathering your poor skin in products and ‘baking’ it on - can’t be comfortable or good for skin!

I’ve recently developed an eye problem and stopped wearing eye make up every day - I realised that I was unable to rub my eye if it itched or wipe it if it watered due to not wanting to smudge my eyeliner - bonkers!! I may not look as pretty now but at least my eyes aren’t as problematic because I can deal with them if needed without having to find a mirror!

Erythronium · 06/06/2019 10:22

I also hate how it makes me look, it doesn't look like me and my brain doesn't like it!

I have this when I shave my legs. I think they look like plucked chicken legs, not like mine! It slightly disturbs me. Also, stubble - yuck.

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Erythronium · 06/06/2019 10:17

Thank you for all the replies, this is so interesting. Especially the reports about how nail varnish feels on the nails, I find it smothering, it doesn't feel right at all. To be fair I also have problems with gloves when say I'm trying to balance on an icy path. For some reason gloves feel like they numb my senses and I can't balance properly so I have to take them off.

To the people saying it must be me doing makeup wrong, not the makeup itself:

"crap" makeup: I assume you mean cheap: nope - some of it was expensive, high end brands. Felt the same.

using too much of it: nope again

sensory issues: I don't think so. I wear glasses and they don't bother me on my face, all I notice is I can see them out of the corner of my eyes

I also don't think it's offensive or patronising to notice that at least some of us find the feel of makeup uncomfortable or unpleasant, even though we wear it/have worn it. Those are just facts.

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dinkydonky · 06/06/2019 10:04

I don't wear foundation but I occasionally wear other makeup (mascara, eye liner, concealer) which I am generally fine with. Less comfortable than not wearing it, but not annoying.

But I really can't stand nail varnish on my fingers! It makes them feel heavy and claustrophobic. Always makes me want to push at my cuticles.
Toes are fine though, I don't notice that at all.

EBearhug · 06/06/2019 09:16

I used to swim a lot as a teen, and make-up was too much faff, so I never got into the habit of it, especially eye make-up with the added joy of hayfever. I do use moisturiser and body lotion, and lip balm, but that's it. This thread makes me realise I don't think I have ever worn foundation - I have at least tried eye shadow, eye liner, lipstick at some point. I can't remember if I could feel them on, other than lipstick - could definitely feel that, and different to lip balm. But I suspect I tried cheap brands. I know quite a few women who use lipstick for moisturising their lips as much as colouring them.

I've worn a lot of nail varnish in the past, but stopped at some point in my 30s for no apparent reason - it just got longer and longer between times when I'd do it. The thought of gel nails turns my teeth, though, and I can't imagine they'd well survive chlorinated pool water and gardening and the other sorts of things I do.

I'm now 47, so I doubt I'll be changing my non-make-up habits any time soon.

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