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West Yorkshire Police investigating complaints against Cllr Sarah Field

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AverageAvenger · 05/06/2019 17:35

Complaints have been made to West Yorkshire Police, who are now undertaking enquiries. Cllr Field now under investigation for her speech at Leeds Declaration of Sex Based Rights.

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SocksKnitter · 07/06/2019 16:24

Yes, a good, clear article, with well-chosen quotes from Sarah's speech.

DuMondeB · 06/06/2019 22:39

Yes - thanks Joe Cooper at the Yorkshire Post.

Nice, straightforward article, linking some local issues and noting the international status of the Declaration (very important as women in many countries haven’t even achieved sex based rights yet)..

GassyAss · 06/06/2019 20:59

www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/people/women-meet-to-discuss-sex-based-rights-in-leeds-amid-accusations-of-transphobia-1-9808810

Nice links in text to relevant stories such as the Karen White Piece. Good job YP.

Birdsfoottrefoil · 06/06/2019 16:46

Maybe we should report more of these speeches to WYP and Safer Leeds. They would have to watch/listen to them before they could respond to the complaint; a useful way of getting them to listen to women’s concerns?

hoodathunkit · 06/06/2019 16:13

West Yorkshire Police are a Mindful Employer

<a class="break-all" href="https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:4YPwhuQU1a0J:www.westyorkshire.police.uk/about-us/inclusion-and-equality/inclusion-and-equality/external-partnerships-and-support-organisations+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&client=safari" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:4YPwhuQU1a0J:www.westyorkshire.police.uk/about-us/inclusion-and-equality/inclusion-and-equality/external-partnerships-and-support-organisations+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&client=safari

The Mindful Employer organisation is an organisation of extreme concern to me.

According to their website:

"MINDFUL EMPLOYER® is a NHS initiative run by Workways, a service of Devon Partnership NHS Trust. Workways supports people with a mental health condition to find or remain in employment. MINDFUL EMPLOYER was developed by employers in Exeter and launched in 2004. Initially intended as a purely local initiative, it has since developed throughout the UK and has been launched abroad. MINDFUL EMPLOYER has been recommended as good practice by the UK government and other national organisations.

MINDFUL EMPLOYER is a Registered Trade Mark of Devon Partnership NHS Trust and the logo can only be used by Charter signatories and Partnership Organisations (see below). If you have any concerns please read our comments and complaints procedure or contact us to discuss."

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190426105131/www.mindfulemployer.net/about/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20190426105131/www.mindfulemployer.net/about/

Devon Partnership NHS Trust (DPT) is of extreme concern to me on a number of levels. The reviews of the trust from patients and from employees, easily found via google, speak volumes about the appalling state of affairs at the Trust.

One part of the DPT that concerns me to a significant degree is Workways, the part of the trust that runs Mindful Employer.

according to its website:

"Workways is a service of Devon Partnership NHS Trust . The staff team comprises of Employment Specialists who come from a variety of backgrounds and who bring a mixture of experience and expertise, and administration staff who provide support for the service.
Workways uses the evidence-based Individual Placement & Support (IPS) approach and is a Centre for Mental Health Centre of Excellence for IPS. This means our service is open to people who want to work and is focussed on what each person wants to do. We help people who have a recovery coordinator to look for work, offering signposting to benefits advice and also work closely with other healthcare professionals and employment advisors. We also provide support for people who are employed and have talked to their GP about their mental health to remain in their job and work with their employer as appropriate. In all cases, we offer as much or as little support as is needed for as long or a short a time as necessary. We also run a Support Forum for people who use Workways to provide mutual support and help develop our service.
We are based on the outskirts of Exeter at New Leaf, which is part of Vocational Rehabilitation Services and offers a supported work environment to aid progress towards or in retaining employment. We are also actively involved in the Devon Recovery Learning Community which provides a range of courses.
We also run a UK-wide initiative, MINDFUL EMPLOYER® which offers easier access to information and support for employers in recruiting and retaining staff who experience mental ill health. "

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20180723173327/www.workways.org.uk/index.php/about-us/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20180723173327/www.workways.org.uk/index.php/about-us/

The Devon Recovery Learning Community is of significant concern to me and should be of concern to anyone interested in the abuse of vulnerable populations by cults and predators.

For example, here is a cache of a PDF file of a leaflet detailing the courses available to vulnerable people with ongoing mental health problems in Devon

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190606134958/devonrlc.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/DRLC-Autumn-Winter-2018-Web.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20190606134958/devonrlc.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/DRLC-Autumn-Winter-2018-Web.pdf

scroll down to page 36 and you will see Yoga for Recovery and Wellbeing, which, according to the text is something called Transformation Hatha Yoga offered by a Mr Paul Beard.

Mr Beard's website is here
<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20180823032546/www.sherpa-epp.co.uk/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20180823032546/www.sherpa-epp.co.uk/

Beard's qualifications to teach yoga and meditation are thus:

"Paul Beard (Dip. THY&R [Transformation Hatha Yoga], Dip P. Couns.Coach & OPRC Registered Teacher of Pure Meditation Foundation) is a qualified Yoga instructor, Mindfulness & Meditation Teacher and Coach.

Since 2001, Paul has been training and teaching individuals and groups in self-development, well-being and stress management practices.

Paul is also an Approved Foster Carer"

source:webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:tmO0fUhJwoQJ:www.learndevon.co.uk/course-details/course/WL8220/+&cd=13&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&client=safari

The following page on his websites fascinating as it shows where he trained in yoga and meditation and that he is a devotee of a guru, a certain Mata Yoganadaji, who owns the Self-Realisation Centre in Somerset and various other branches of the same spiritual movement internationally.

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20180816135643/www.sherpa-epp.co.uk/yoga/the-enlightened-source-of-the-sherpa-training/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20180816135643/www.sherpa-epp.co.uk/yoga/the-enlightened-source-of-the-sherpa-training/

In fact Transformation Hatha Yoga and Pure Meditation are taught exclusively by Self-Realization Centres owned and run by Mr Beard's guru Mata Yoganadaji.

Mata Yoganadaji (aka Mata Yogananda - real name Rena Denton) is a multi-millionaire who has amassed a significant international property portfolio by encouraging her followers to donate all their worldly possessions to her spiritual movement.

source:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8290374/Gurus-multi-million-pound-spiritual-property-empire.html

also see

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8283649/RAF-officer-who-lost-faith-in-his-guru.html

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/5778549/Doctor-sues-former-guru-after-giving-away-all-his-possessions.html

So it seems that the Devon Recovery Learning Community (an organisation with significant links to Mindful Employer via WorkWays) feels it appropriate to refer some of the most vulnerable people in the community to yoga classes run by Paul Beard.

Paul Beard's training in yoga and meditation is via a controversial spiritual movement with form for persuading highly educated people including a doctor and former military intelligence officer hand over all all their possessions and assets.

There is so much more to tell about Mindful Employer, Devon Partnership NHS Trust, and WorkWays and don't even get me started on the Devon Recovery Learning Community. I could be here for days if I get started.

This will do for now.

AlwaysTawnyOwl · 06/06/2019 15:57

Sarah Field gave a spectacular and unanswerable speech. The only weapon TRAs have in their arsenal against the truth is to try and shut it down. If they didn’t recognise the absolute veracity of what she said they wouldn’t need to.

SocksKnitter · 06/06/2019 15:33

Massive thanks to the Spinners for putting up that video. It has been a big help getting those complaints in.

And I bet that very few of the complainants actually watched the whole thing before obeying orders and putting in their complaints. Heaven forfend they should actually listen or read, in case reality creeps in unawares.

When it was first published I tweeted the link to the Mumsnet thread which gave the text of the speech and it quickly became one of my most retweeted posts. It was hugely warmly welcomed and is now my pinned tweet, in the hope that yet more people will read and share it.

The cat is out of the bag, Richard, and more and more people are seeing that the emperor is stark naked.

JackyHolyoake · 06/06/2019 14:13

Those people reporting the speeches from the Leeds Civic Hall event to Safer Leeds or WYP need to familiarise themselves with Articles 9, 10 and 11 of the UK Human Rights Act 1998:

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1998/42/schedule/1

DerelictWreck · 06/06/2019 14:08

I’m truly sorry for any man who feels imprisoned and tortured by masculinity. But that is something for men to deconstruct, to dismantle and to overthrow. And there are men doing it. There are transsexuals and cross dressers and allies against the male stereotypes which damage everyone. But it is not the moral duty of women to facilitate that. If your feminism prioritises the internal identifications of men over the material conditions of women then you are not a feminist. In a world of structural and systematic oppression, and an epidemic of male violence, we owe it to women and to the legacy of every feminist who has fought before us, to stand for ourselves.

How fantastically well said.

SarahTancredi · 06/06/2019 14:05

When will you realise Richard, that they are not wanting to hide anything? You don't need to make any secret recordings, because the women you despise are perfectly open with their views, and they are usually publicised freely

Contrast that with the likes of Mermaids, who react with horror to someone recording the training they are giving in school

And why could that possibly be Hmm

Wake up wyp. You have been had. Big time.

theOtherPamAyres · 06/06/2019 14:02

I ask because the complaint against Heather Brunskell Evans was made to Safer Leeds

(sorry for double post, pressed wrong button)

theOtherPamAyres · 06/06/2019 14:00

Are we sure that this has been reported to West Yorkshire Police rather than Safer Leeds Hate Crime Unit (aka Leeds City Council)?

Have you more information, OP?

DuMondeB · 06/06/2019 13:52

Perhaps these threats of ‘milkshaking’ against the women speaking that day could also be taken into consideration by the investigating officers?

West Yorkshire Police investigating complaints against Cllr Sarah Field
ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 06/06/2019 13:49

Massive thanks to the Spinners for putting up that video. It has been a big help getting those complaints in.

I'm a bit confused a out what there is to complain about?

Manderleyagain · 06/06/2019 13:45

I expect they recorded to make sure the q and a was recorded, which isn't usually. I wonder what crime he's alleging was committed by answering a direct question truthfully? I don't think there is such an offence (yet).

EweSurname · 06/06/2019 13:40

This is an image that is sadly applicable in far too many contexts

West Yorkshire Police investigating complaints against Cllr Sarah Field
DuMondeB · 06/06/2019 13:40

Reminder of R Firth’s previous attempts to stop women from assembling:

medium.com/@JonnnyBest/welcome-to-leeds-women-now-shut-up-c00da13e38c0

Under His Eye.

whatsthecomingoverthehill · 06/06/2019 13:35

When will you realise Richard, that they are not wanting to hide anything? You don't need to make any secret recordings, because the women you despise are perfectly open with their views, and they are usually publicised freely.

Contrast that with the likes of Mermaids, who react with horror to someone recording the training they are giving in schools.

LangCleg · 06/06/2019 13:33

It’ll be a big help for proving no actual crimes have been committed.

Indeed. And will also fail to intimidate women from sharing each others words.

Escalation just makes everything that bit more obvious, doesn't it? One might almost say own goal.

littlbrowndog · 06/06/2019 13:32

Richard Richard.

Reporting women to the police for talking

Women they are such a bad bunch when they don’t comply

DuMondeB · 06/06/2019 13:27

Massive thanks to the Spinners for putting up that video. It has been a big help getting those complaints in.

It’ll be a big help for proving no actual crimes have been committed.

Birdsfoottrefoil · 06/06/2019 13:26

So West Yorkshire Police are investigating politicians to ensure their speeches are compliant????

RJFirth · 06/06/2019 12:26

Massive thanks to the Spinners for putting up that video. It has been a big help getting those complaints in.

placemats · 05/06/2019 20:03

WYP are obsessed and clearly something is amiss here.

Outrageous.

Meanwhile in other news:

www.theguardian.com/society/2019/jun/05/killings-of-toddlers-highlight-critical-state-of-social-services

Perhaps WYP is swimming in money. Could they perhaps give some of it to Northampton services?

truthisarevolutionaryact · 05/06/2019 19:46

The escalation may well be due to anxiety about seeing the bloated gravy train drying up. If institutions stop paying for training or consultation then these groups will be on a level playing field with all other charities / voluntary groups.
As their advice is now being openly evidenced as incorrect, illegal and breaching safeguarding guidelines, it becomes far more risky for institutions to use them. Knowingly involving groups / individuals proven to be misrepresenting the law, undermining safeguarding etc opens institutions up to massive risks. Failing to use due diligence is costly down the line and all the evidence is piling up against these groups and individuals.