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Why are women being guilt tripped into looking after mens testicles?

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QuentinWinters · 05/06/2019 12:35

Just saw this advert. I am quite irked. Women are constantly getting pressure for smears, mammograms, and we should check our boob regularly or we will DIE and it will be our own fault.

Why are are we now also getting guilt tripped into taking responsibility for mens testicles?

Surely most men play with their wangs enough to spot changes. How about they grow up and go to the doctor themselves, without needing mummy to sort it for them?

I doubt very much there are ads in mens loos asking them to check their partners boobs and nag them to go to the doctor if something changes.

And let's not even mention that the poster is pink.

Seriously. Just Angry

Why are women being guilt tripped into looking after mens testicles?
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bluebluezoo · 06/06/2019 09:21

Putting the responsibility on to partners doesn’t help those in abusive relationships either.

You have to check my testicles- i can’t do it myself the nhs information says it should be done by a partner. You don’t want me to die do you? Oh look, you’ve got me all excited, you can’t stop there....

SpartacusAutisticusAHF · 06/06/2019 09:13

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butteryellow · 06/06/2019 09:06

Well, without wishing to stereotype, I've yet to partner with a man who doesn't spend some time each day idly playing with his testicles, so I really think they'd be the ones to notice, rather than me having a squeeze once a month...

Hell, a couple of days ago at breakfast, my youngest asked what the little spheres in his winkie were (yes, he knows the right word, he prefers this one). And now he's at least heard the word 'testicles', and age-appropriately what they're there for, and whats going to happen to them when he gets older (the last courtesy of his brother who likes to show how much he knows)

FloralBunting · 06/06/2019 08:49

I am so surprised that someone who is 'the enemy of women' is twisting a discussion about the sexist messaging on a toilet sign in the ladies loo into 'you all want your Male relatives to die'.

Oh wait, no. I'm not surprised at all.

namynom · 06/06/2019 08:19

Jesus! I’ll add it to my list. I don’t want my husband to die of testicular cancer either obviously that goes without saying. But he’s quite capable of checking himself! I might remind him of it every once in a while but am I the only one who actually wouldn’t want to check my husband’s testicles? Testicles are not my favourite bodily part, I don’t like the idea of having to give them a thorough going over once a month with my face in a crotch.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 06/06/2019 08:13

I can ask ds1

He is probably wondering what triggered a random text from his mum about his balls

His partner is probably thinking the same thing

MenuPlant · 06/06/2019 08:09

What about gay men who identify as feminists?

Are they part of the target audience? Conundrum.

MenuPlant · 06/06/2019 08:08

'As people have said it’s often easier for a second party to distinguish a problem rather than the affected bloke'

Is it? Really? Across all the symptoms they describe on their own website?

I'm also interested to see an example of nhs campaign telling men to check their partners breasts (note, not to say if they notice something while touching them for other reasons but a formal monthly exam).

The idea that feminists are excluded from the message on the poster is v silly too. So it's definitely aimed at gay men (despite everything about it from design to wording feeling aimed at women plus its up in a women's loo) but it's definitely not aimed at feminists of any type (fun, choice, radical etc) and that was something the team who made it were aware of 😁

Pandamodium · 06/06/2019 08:06

I've seen a similar poster in my local doctors I'll try and get a snap.

My grandad got it at 83 managed to find it all by himself and make himself a GP appointment despite being half deaf with cataracts and having mobility issues. There's enough information out there about it for men to read and check themselves.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 06/06/2019 07:48

Can i just point out that if i dont for some reason check my partners balls on a monthly basis it doesnt mean i dont love him or want him to die

There have been a couple or recent posts that seem to be heading in that direction

tittysprinkles · 06/06/2019 05:16

I've no doubt that as others have pointed out, there is benefit to men keeping an eye on there own balls and immediately consulting a doctor if they find a new lump.

But I can't find any evidence that says that regular testicular exams by partners improves early detection or reduces mortality from testicular cancer.

A testicular exam is not without a degree of skill - no explanation of how to perform the check in this poster. To an untrained person, a normal epididymis could feel like a lump, where you should be feeling the body of the testis for lumps as these are where testicular cancers arise.

It feels logical that scheduled checking should improve detection rates - but that's not always the case.

Women used to be advised to check their breasts regularly but there was no evidence of benefit for that either www.cochrane.org/CD003373/BREASTCA_regular-self-examination-or-clinical-examination-for-early-detection-of-breast-cancer.

2BthatUnnoticed · 06/06/2019 04:14

Thought this was about JY. It seems women in Canada are not merely guilt tripped into dealing with testicles (on pain of being called “transphobic”) but legally required to. So little respect for women as individuals with agency over there own bodies. It’s awful.

The sign is annoying - “come on little wifey, hop to it!”

Dervel · 06/06/2019 02:43

I’m afraid I didn’t see that posted as being TOLD it’s a suggestion nothing more than that. The point I think I can get on board with is men being prompted to have more concern for the health of their partners. If there is an imbalance here it’s that.

Goosefoot · 06/06/2019 02:25

I don't see the problem. It used to be recommended here for men to check their partners breasts for lumps and its not uncommon for men to notice them in their partners before the women themselves do. I'd have thought that was where the idea came from though perhaps that wasn't promoted elsewhere.

Really, most women love their partners and are probably happy enough to help out if it is good for their health. I suspect many men wouldn't ask though.

HennyPennyHorror · 06/06/2019 02:14

Caucho don't you realise that this sort of thing is contributing to sexism as a whole? It's the sneaking, constant inference that women are there for the convenience of men.

The MESSAGE is there whether most people realise it or not and that just compounds the many issues we have already.

"Don't do it rather than whinge" isn't helping with the fact that we shouldn't be fucking TOLD to do it in the first place!

As for "don't try to speak on everyone else's behalf" you can piss right off. I'm GLAD there are people out there speaking on my behalf and on women everywhere's behalf. if you're so ignorant you don't see the problems, well you're a victim of the shite we've all been fed for so long and you of all people NEED the speaking up.

Caucho · 06/06/2019 01:28

These posts are when I realise I really am the enemy of many women. What the fuck is there to get upset about? Wife work? It’s not a legal requirement to check people’s balls so you don’t have to. Do it or don’t do it. As people have said it’s often easier for a second party to distinguish a problem rather than the affected bloke but it’s not compulsory. Just don’t do it rather than whinge. I usually agree with most of the feminist issues on here but this complaint seems to be completely churlish. You’re entitled to your opinion so coolio. Don’t try to speak on everyone else’s behalf as many women here find this ridiculous

powershowerforanhour · 06/06/2019 01:11

Do you know what is hard to check, that it would be much easier for a partner to do? Trauma caused by vaginal birth. DH was sitting beside me during the birth of DD2 and while the midwife stitched me up after and she explained to me what she was doing.
It would have been useful if, when finished, she'd said to him, right come here and look closely from this angle. This is the bruised bit and it's going to look worse tomorrow. This is the abraded bit. Here's the start and finish of the suture line. It was a second degree tear so about this deep. Can you see the knot here? There's a little bit of overlap here but it shouldn't gape here, OK? Check every day for the next 2 weeks.

NOPE. No way is the NHS and society in general going to expect men to actually look closely at their partners' battered vulvas. Yukketty yuk yuk. The poor men have to have sex with these women in future, how can they possibly enjoy fun sexy times ever again if they have to actually look at the unsexy damage birth caused to their partners? It's not even as if the midwives have the decency to wax and bleach everything, trim the inner labia and silicone inject the outer while they're at it to make it all pretty for the men so of course nobody expects the man to look at a vulva in it's (gulp) post-birth damaged and repaired state.

Caucho · 06/06/2019 01:02

It seems to come from a good place and men are lot more likely than women to put there heads in the sand and ignore health issues. Of course I know they shouldn’t but they do.

If you want to get upset about this then do so. It’s not compulsory. Fuck husbands and your children’s fathers.

Dervel · 06/06/2019 00:50

@MenuPlant

Why? Feminists are a sub set of women. Lots of women are feminists. Don't get this comment. It's it because feminists are supposed to be lesbians? Too ugly to shag? Happy for men including their partners to die from preventable diseases? Some combination of the above? OR as its pink its only aimed at feminine women? That seems odd. Testicular cancer isn't more prevalent in the partners of feminine women is it? Leaving aside the fact that feminine =/= pink a lot of the time...

Ummm no merely that feminists as a sub set of women do not generally appreciate being made to feel responsible for men. However there may be a sub set of women who might be inclined to check, and if there are and they happen to have a partner who is lax in that regard it might save some lives and save some pennies if a cancer is caught sooner rather than later. In which case good job.

It’s not as if these are the only PSAs out there. I recall one fronted by Bill Bailey encouraging men to check themselves. Nobody is forcing you to check anything by the way and if some hapless man doesn’t bother to check himself and dies that’s on him. If however a few lives are saved then that’s a positive.

I’ve been posting here for many years and I am not in the habit of using pejoratives to describe feminists, not that I would consider a lesbian remotely negative I have a few lesbian friends. I abhor ad-hominems. Anyone I interact with has my respect until proven otherwise by their own behaviour. There is nothing inherently wrong with feminism to me so if you drew some veiled insult in my comment I apologise.

FloralBunting · 05/06/2019 22:51

Men have never not told women they are wrong. It's part of the charm.

FloralBunting · 05/06/2019 22:49

I'm still roffling at 'Why would you assume this ad wasnt aimed at gay men?' 'Because it was in the female loos'

See, some of us actually still understand the concept of men not being allowed in women's loos.

LarryGreysonsDoor · 05/06/2019 22:49

Did men pitch up and tell women they were wrong then too?

LangCleg · 05/06/2019 22:48

This thread is like Old Skool FWR. Circa 2014.

It really is!

Popchyk · 05/06/2019 22:45

This thread is like Old Skool FWR. Circa 2014.

Did anybody even know what an Incel was then? I certainly didn't.

LangCleg · 05/06/2019 22:42

I said MRAs and GC feminists are both critical of transgenderism (for want of a better word), and that the transgender movement has absolutely 0 to do with MRAs. Go and read the thread again.

Oh. It was you, was it? Colour me shocked.