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What about the women's world cup?!

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Clarew201 · 04/06/2019 17:34

Hi everyone, I read a couple of threads on the sports bit of Mumsnet and realised I was only reading about men's football. The women's world cup starts on 7th June and it's a really important year for supporting and promoting the game for women and girls. For those that don't know, a bit of history is that the women’s game was huge in the UK between the world wars (crowds of 55,000 with 14,000 waiting outside!), and large numbers of working class factory women playing in teams all over the country over many years - becoming household names and raising lots of money for returned soldiers and mining communities. Then the FA banned women from playing, for 50 years. When the FA finally lifted the ban in the 70s, women players faced horrendous treatment and the game has been struggling to come back ever since.

So it's brilliant that football is having a comeback. Here's where it's on in London londonist.com/london/sport/womens-world-cup-2019-football-where-to-watch-london-screenings

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HiHoToffee · 07/07/2019 10:15

I think they were saying it from the defenders point of view but as the bbc kept cutting them out to go to Wimbeldon, things might have got lost in translation a bit.

Having now seen the 'handball' myself, I think it was very harsh and VAR nitpicking. Should have stood, we would have had a far better second half with everything to play for for both teams.

I still blame the waistcoat Grin

LimitIsUp · 06/07/2019 23:03

Must have been amateur hour on 5 Live

DoctorTwo · 06/07/2019 20:59

According to the laws of the game handball has to be deliberate, i.e. a conscious movement of the arm or hand towards the ball. No way was that deliberate, imo the goal should've stood.

HiHoToffee · 06/07/2019 18:03

I listened to the first half on the radio whilst stuck in traffic, got home in time to watch the second half. England weren't on their best and just couldn't get it right today sadly.
I haven't seen the disallowed goal but on the 5live they said it was the right decision.

LimitIsUp · 06/07/2019 17:05

I'm still fuming re the disallowed second goal. As Dublin said, VAR is supposed to look for the 'clear and obvious'

sluj · 06/07/2019 16:42

That looked like we could have called for a penalty there Shock

orangeshoebox · 06/07/2019 16:40

a nice fast game. still plenty of time.
come on england!

LimitIsUp · 06/07/2019 16:39

Any one else watching?

LimitIsUp · 06/07/2019 16:37

No way was that a handball

MissConductUS · 06/07/2019 00:26

I was really impressed with Rose Lavelle and Tobin Heath. The Dutch have play excellent defense this year, but those two are lethal together.

The US v England match drew a record television audience in the US, despite being on a weekday afternoon here. The final will draw a massive audience in the US, which is great news for women's football here.

CountFosco · 05/07/2019 21:47

Apart from the last 16 minutes of Scotland's game against Argentina this has been a fabulous world cup, so much better than the astro turf in Canada (although England were amazing then).

Favourite players: Lucy Bronze (DD1) and Ellen White (DD2).

We have registered our interest for 2021.

LimitIsUp · 05/07/2019 12:53

Got to share the admiration for Ellen White (and a number of other players - they are all quality)

DoctorTwo · 05/07/2019 03:50

I've loved this world cup, other than England playing out from the back. That penalty aside, Steph Houghton is still the best centre half in the womens' game.

4 years ago I pointed out to DD2 my favourite player at the time, Eni Aluko, and mentioned that she was better known than her brother, and more capped, but earned about 5% of what he earned.

She asked me who my favourite player ever is so I told her Jack Bentley. Who nobody has ever heard of.

Now I think the sky's the limit for Ellen White, she's a Linekeresque centre forward.

If the English womens' system keeps paying women to play full time I think they could win the next world cup, not something I could say about the men.

LimitIsUp · 04/07/2019 16:34

I will be supporting the Dutch but the USA will win.

Just registered my interest online for tickets for Womens Euro 2021 when they become available (to be played in various stadiums across England)

HiHoToffee · 04/07/2019 15:11

Jacqui Oatley

HiHoToffee · 04/07/2019 15:07

Jackie Oatley:
Good to see @BBCSport highlights of the great saves at the @FIFAWWC. Female goalkeepers have been ridiculed for years, perhaps without people realising they’d never received specialist GK training while holding down full-time jobs.

MissConductUS · 04/07/2019 12:53

Holland has a very talented team. It should be a very exciting match.

orangeshoebox · 04/07/2019 09:53

rooting for the oranjes

MissConductUS · 04/07/2019 09:50

I'm rooting for Holland, what about everyone else?

I think I'll stick with the Yanks. Smile

this tournament the goalies have been excellent

There was some question about whether Alyssa Naeher could really fill Hope Solo's shoes. That's certainly been settled.

HiHoToffee · 04/07/2019 08:45

USA's strenght, speed and pressure on the ball will be difficult for the Dutch, like it was for France and England. The European countries are catching up and I think at the next world cup we will see their dominance.

I remember 4 years ago that the English commentators were saying that goalkeepers training was a new thing, this tournament the goalies have been excellent and nobody is talking about smaller goals anymore.

We just have to hope that people will start supporting local womens football and that the investment will continue, especially on grass roots level.

MockerstheFeManist · 04/07/2019 08:05

The Dutch aren't nearly as good as England. Barring an upset this is a foregone conclusion.

The USA will be remembered as far and away the best team, without the dignity or grace of true champions. Arrogant and boorish and very much in need of being taken down a peg.

sluj · 04/07/2019 07:48

I'm rooting for Holland, what about everyone else?

MissConductUS · 03/07/2019 23:54

Rapinoe will be back in the line up for the final. That's going to be a problem for the Dutch.

HiHoToffee · 03/07/2019 22:48

Yeah most likely but I am happy for the Dutch Lionesses.

littlbrowndog · 03/07/2019 22:44

USA gonna win this