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What about the women's world cup?!

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Clarew201 · 04/06/2019 17:34

Hi everyone, I read a couple of threads on the sports bit of Mumsnet and realised I was only reading about men's football. The women's world cup starts on 7th June and it's a really important year for supporting and promoting the game for women and girls. For those that don't know, a bit of history is that the women’s game was huge in the UK between the world wars (crowds of 55,000 with 14,000 waiting outside!), and large numbers of working class factory women playing in teams all over the country over many years - becoming household names and raising lots of money for returned soldiers and mining communities. Then the FA banned women from playing, for 50 years. When the FA finally lifted the ban in the 70s, women players faced horrendous treatment and the game has been struggling to come back ever since.

So it's brilliant that football is having a comeback. Here's where it's on in London londonist.com/london/sport/womens-world-cup-2019-football-where-to-watch-london-screenings

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FermatsTheorem · 09/06/2019 18:15

Despite being a Scot (we was robbed with the penalty) I'm enjoying this. It pains me to admit it but England are the class side, but the thing that's good is both sides are playing their hearts out. And Cuthbert is excellent up front. I think Emslie's looking great on the wing, as well. Much better to watch than the men's Champion's League final which was fucking turgid (and I say that as a Liverpool fan).

HiHoToffee · 09/06/2019 18:15

The standard of play is a lot higher than 4 years ago, especially the goalkeeping, and I have no doubt that it will keep improving.

MrsSnippyPants · 09/06/2019 18:05

I am quite sad that my granddaughter is a little too young to appreciate this. How I would have loved this as a young girl, seeing women play such fantastic football, being wonderful role models. Billy Bremner didn’t quite inspire me in the same way!

HiHoToffee · 09/06/2019 17:58

Good first half, I thought the penalty was a bit harsh but very well taken, as was the second goal.

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HiHoToffee · 09/06/2019 17:00

Perfect antidote to the boring men's game, same result please.
Come on England!

MenstruatorExtraordinaire · 09/06/2019 16:52

Come on England! Looking forward to watching this match

Enjoyed all the matches I've watched so far.

nickymanchester · 09/06/2019 13:41

I was just talking with a friend of mine who lives in the USA (haven't spoken to her in ages) and we got talking about the World Cup.

It turns out that where she lives (in Portland) women's football is actually really big and the local professional women's team regularly get upwards of 15,000 people attending their matches.

There was even quite a long article in The Guardian about the team earlier this week in the run up to the World Cup:-

Are the Portland Thorns the ideal template for a women's football club?

It's a really interesting read about what they've done over the years to make the team so successful both in terms of results and commercially as well.

One thing that my friend did say concerned her is who she will support if England end up playing USA. This is because her home team make up most of the US squad. So does she support the women from her local team that she supports regularly or does she support the women of England?

She is very much English and supports her country but also feels a connection to the actual players from her home team who make up the majority of the US squad.

HiHoToffee · 09/06/2019 12:27

Like the namechange, and Sam Kerr just scored for Australia Grin

DickKerrLadies · 09/06/2019 08:40

Hello all, new username for the occasion! The sun even appears to be coming out in Preston as well - must be a sign Grin

I'm going to go and read the article about the Jamaican team now.

HiHoToffee · 08/06/2019 22:14

FIFA still haven't managed to upload all player's profile photos.

I enjoyed Spain v South Africa, was hoping for an upset but Spain was too strong the second half. Penalties and a second yellow didn't help South Africa.

Didn't see Norway v Nigeria.

ScottishDoll · 08/06/2019 22:03

That is an excellent point.

CharlieParley · 08/06/2019 21:59

I only take an interest in football when it's the world cup. Have done since 1986 (still remember listening to the final on my tiny, new portable radio). Get properly into it and always check the schedules, groups and results on the BBC website.

Instead of listing by country, the BBC list each team as England Women, Scotland Women, France Women etc.

Now I realise this is probably stupid of me, but they don't list the men's teams with Men at the end. So to me this reads as this is just the women's team, the real team is the other one and obviously, you don't need an added qualifier for the real team. They're just England, Scotland, France...

But there are no men's teams playing here. It's the women's world cup. Everyone knows it's the women playing. So why the clarifier if not to make that patronising distinction?

MenstruatorExtraordinaire · 08/06/2019 21:48

I'll actually be in Nice this weekend and I'm really disappointed that I'm flying there on Thursday leaving on Sunday so I won't be able to watch a match. I didn't realise this was on when I booked my weekend away but actually it would have been lovely to have gone and watched England and supported our women.

NoseringGirl · 08/06/2019 21:20

I saw that earlier and was very unimpressed though I hadn't seen the article. Then I saw Gabby Logan's response and she was saying it was direct quotes from the footballer. Still not keen on the way it was presented though.

WomenUnited · 08/06/2019 19:58

Seriously horrible sexism from the BBC here, please complain and get them to keep it real.

twitter.com/EmmaHarperMSP/status/1137240114843783169

HiHoToffee · 08/06/2019 16:04

Very entertaining game between Germany and China.

Needmoresleep · 08/06/2019 15:16

We have tickets to some of the quarter and semi finals. Lets hope England get through the group stages.

Student DD plays, and her dad has decided to share her interest/enthusiasm. To be honest he likes watching most team sports, but it is nice that he takes an interest in a woman's game rather than just expect her to take an interest in men's Premier League.

The kit is nice and would make a good, albeit expensive, present. Its quite fitted, so the arms came out tight on my sporty daughter and she had to go up a size. Apparently the first time England women have had their own design rather than just use the men's one.

ScottishDoll · 08/06/2019 00:57

www.bbc.com/sport/football/48562064

Shelley Kerr, Scotland Head Coach gets an MBE Grin

HiHoToffee · 07/06/2019 23:13

Grin enjoy your extra day

MenstruatorExtraordinaire · 07/06/2019 22:44

HiHoToffee I knew that but I've been off with the kids today because they're on half-term and so got confused & thought it was Saturday today. Which is actually brilliant news for me because I've gained an extra day.

CountFosco · 07/06/2019 22:29

DD1 plays football so we've been discussing this since last summer. Trouble is in this house the parent support Scotland and the children support England so there may be trouble on Sunday!

As well as the Scottish programme linked to above there's this on England. Visa has some mini profiles of some of the players on their website. We've also got some of the Ultimate football heros books for DD1 and much to her joy Kelly Smith, Alex Morgan and Marta are all left footers like her so she's really identifying with her footballing heros right now. I keep telling her how lucky she is, that when I was growing up football wasn't an option for girls.

JackyHolyoake · 07/06/2019 22:15

I tell you what! That Wendy Renard in the French team is a bit dangerous, ain't she? [No doubt our England team is well aware of her and has tactics to deal with her skills .. I say, hopefully!]

boldlygoingsomewhere · 07/06/2019 22:12

Loved watching France play - so much skill! OH thought their skill level was better than the men’s game - especially the taking of corners. We’re big fans of the women’s game in this house and make an effort to watch the games. Hoping good viewing figures will mean more gets televised.

HiHoToffee · 07/06/2019 22:06

Well done France, deserved win.

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