Jeremy Corbyn's ridiculous speech

i don't despise Jeremy at all. As you say on a personal level he's a down to earth and quietly spoken guy. But I do think he is unaware of his own shadow; or certainly the shadow side of trendy, liberal lefty politics

I do. I think he is a stupid, vain, petulant little man with lashings of misogyny. I supported Labour until he became leader.

Eddie Izard being prepared to stand on women only short-lists is going to seriously piss people off. Used to love Eddie.

I think Jeremy, to be fair, goes along with all of the TWAW stuff because of his woke young demographic - not because he's seriously thought about it. Jeremy has still got his eye on the prize he's always been after ( a people's anti-capitalist revolution/Brexit) - meanwhile many of his old demographic are looking elsewhere; he's not the man for them. Too concerned with minority rights and appeasing terrorists.

Yeah right.

I'm right wing Trump supporter. He's our man to get the job done. We didn't elect him to be our minister, choir boy or whatever. He's our hired gun and doing a fine job of it.

People are reading too much Lefty propaganda.

I remember the crying here about him hating women so much he would never talk to Teresa May. FFS he had a woman as his campaign manager - the first woman ever to lead a successful Presidential campaign.

Trump has people of all races and genders in his cabinet. He hires the best people for the job and NOT for the sake of diversity. But still the silly buggers didn't know this because the fucking Guardian (or whatever shit you read) told them he was a woman hater and would start a nuke war with NK.

He's over there doing trade deals right now so you can tell Europe to fuck off.

Corbin can fuck off as far as I'm concerned.

Or even of propaganda

Yeah I think I probably am aware about propaganda.

The Tory who blocked upskirting, I think he had a valid reason for it. He tries to block all bills which are snuck through without being debated.
He objects so that they have to be debated.
He didn't pick out this one bill, he does it often.

Except, he doesn't do it when one of his mates puts forward a bill.

Not sure why you are going on about right wing politics and Trump. this thread is about Jeremy Corbyn and by extension the Labour party.

Quite. This is a favourite deflection tactic of Corbyn supporters. My very own husband is guilty of it. Well, guess what? I don't happen to think that relying on the fact that there are worse politicians than you, or noting that that lot are Islamopobic, so your anti-Semitism is therefore not that bad, is the kind of tactic that will bring out voters in their droves. Decent politicians should aspire to more than this.

Totally agree OP.

He’s a complete melt

Oh, god, yesssssssss!!!

I can't stand it when men try to take credit for their feminism. The few actually feminist (or feminist ally, if you take the position that men can't really be feminists) men I know never would because they're smart enough to know that they don't get to speak on behalf of women.

Best thing a man has ever said to me on the subject was: "the best I can do as a man is to believe you, to applaud you for speaking up, to practise what I preach in my own life and to STFU when women speak on women's issues but have their back when my fellow men don't get it. And never, ever, to pontificate because I don't have a fucking clue".

He's my hero (for other reasons, actually, but this decidedly helps).

Distract us with the shiny Trump and we hopefully won't see the left's raging, hypocritical misogyny eh?

And he hasn’t a prayer of succeeding..not because if his views (a lot of which I disagree) but because the right wing media has told people what to think

And it is just super smart people like yourself that can see through that?
The rest of us are just gullible dumbos. Not!

And Trump insisting that the NHS is up for discussion on any trade deal. Fuck off Trump and take your disgusting attitudes with you

Not sure why you are going on about right wing politics and Trump. this thread is about Jeremy Corbyn and by extension the Labour party.

It's not a binary you know? Wink: wink Politics can be far more nuanced than Left/Right.

Trust me...if all you have to moan about is JC’s speech then you are blinkered and you’ve been hoodwinked by the right wing propaganda

Honestly, give us a break! We're not stupid. Most of us here have been involved in left/radical politics for a long time....We're right to be disappointed that the woke left has abandoned women in the head-long rush to virtue signal on minority rights.

People just choose to despise JC

i don't despise Jeremy at all. As you say on a personal level he's a down to earth and quietly spoken guy. But I do think he is unaware of his own shadow; or certainly the shadow side of trendy, liberal lefty politics.

And he hasn’t a prayer of succeeding..not because if his views (a lot of which I disagree) but because the right wing media has told people what to think. But... wait... 'They' said that about Trump.

... and Bojo

...and Corbyn

.. and the Goviot (but Ithink they were absolutely right on that one!

DuckWillow

Brilliant post, Trump is possibly the most ignorant, racist, xenphobic, mysoginistic World leader. He constantly lies, he is untrustworthy and he is a loose cannon who could well start a major war at any time.

Oh yeah, pointing out that Corbyn can mention misogyny but it means fuck all unless he does something is completely my non-existent rightwing influences coming out.

FFS.

The only small mercy is that Corbyn seems to be surrounded by incompetent advisers so his chances of being elected are low, doubly so if he comes out for a second referendum looking at the EU election results Labour would lose most of the North and Wales. As an old school lefty that hurts me but the actual protection of the female sex is far more important and Identity politics can go die in a fire.

I think we know which females he is defending here from the ‘nasty people’.

And Trump insisting that the NHS is up for discussion on any trade deal. Fuck off Trump and take your disgusting attitudes with you.

AND

Newsflash for the folk here saying they are not right wing ... you ARE still influenced by what you read. I generally can’t stand JC but I recognise propaganda when I see it.

And he hasn’t a prayer of succeeding..not because if his views (a lot of which I disagree) but because the right wing media has told people what to think.

Well,at least we know who JC won't meet. IRA? Hamas? The Chinese premier? Of course. The leader of the free world? No. What a twat.

Deeds not Words?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/03/corbyn-urged-to-get-house-in-order-over-david-prescott-claims