Jeremy Corbyn's ridiculous speech

Labour are all talk and virtue signalling, whereas the Tories have already had TWO female prime ministers. Actions speak louder than platitudes.

Didn't Corbyn once say that he was going to meet Linda Bello's to discuss self ID? I'm sure we'd have heard if they had met up.

He's such a massive bellend. Will never again vote Labour with him at the helm

The Tory who blocked upskirting, I think he had a valid reason for it. He tries to block all bills which are snuck through without being debated.
He objects so that they have to be debated.
He didn't pick out this one bill, he does it often.

With respect this is rubbish.

There is nothing honourable about Christopher Chope blocking the upskirting bill or the FGM bill. There have been members bills put forward by his friends that he's had no objection to. Please don't portray him as being a principled man.

Yes, AWAs are fond of shifting the definition of misogyny to mean being 'anti-femininity'. So you end with a feminist accused of being a misogynist because she objects to men wearing high heels and and scratchy lingerie as an expression of their true inner woman feelings.

And then there's the idea of 'transmisogyny' which on first sight might reasonable be assumed to be the appalling woman-hatred inherent in the trans movement, but is actually the extra-specially bad version of boring old run of the mill misogyny, just like trans people who are men being extra special 'women'.

So frankly, Corbyn can rail all he likes against misogyny. I don't have the first fucking clue what he might mean by that, and I suspect he doesn't know either.

I would choose them over the Tories any day of the week

Many of us now no longer want to choose either.

It hasn't even dawned on them how that will impact on women and girls. Yet they are convinced that they can defeat misogyny.

Or they are using 'misogyny' in a way that is different from the way we would use it. I have seen it used as an accusation against GC women on Twitter.

Given the abysmal depths of how unelectable he’s made Labour, you’d think if Magic Grandpa actually cared about doing anything to tackle misogyny like getting into government, he’d have buggered off ages ago. Self before Party.

I have no time for Corbyn. Presiding over Labour’s budge up or fuck off tactics. Saying he wants to root out misogyny? He couldn’t root out a carrot.

It hasn't even dawned on them how that will impact on women and girls. Yet they are convinced that they can defeat misogyny.

"A Labour government will gender audit all policy and legislation for its impact on women before implementation."

So... they will 'gender audit' the impact on women of a policy that would render the words 'gender' and 'woman' meaningless? That shouldn't take long.

He’s the oldest student political activist in town.

This pretty much hits the nail on the head!

Despite being decidedly upper MC and having a corporate career, I've always been and continue to be an ardent leftie ... but the above is the reason I just can't bring myself to vote for the man.

There's nothing wrong - well, in my very biased personal opinion - with some radical politics. But I need these to come with a healthy dose of "definitely-a-groen-arse-adultism". And he fails miserably on that front.

I'd be more likely to vote for my centre-right boss' boss (who has political aspirations and with whom I disagree fundamentally), because I know him to be essentially mature , pragmatic and hence capable of doing the right thing if push comes to shove because he's not an utter moron.

JC, on the other hand, just comes across like a really wrinkly version of my most naive work experience students: it all seems very passionate and nothing he says or does suggests a deeper grasp of actual issues. And a lot of it feels like virtue signalling for its own sake.

I hate this. I've not voted since the LP went full-on student politics and it's making me feel horrible.

Whittle, "they" have Labour's backing on self-id.

Whittle is correct, "A Labour government will reform the Gender Recognition Act and the Equality Act 2010 to ensure they protect Trans people by changing the protected characteristic of ‘gender assignment’ to ‘gender identity’ and remove other outdated language such as ‘transsexual’."

It hasn't even dawned on them how that will impact on women and girls. Yet they are convinced that they can defeat misogyny.

Corbyn gives 'rousing speeches' about misogyny much like he speaks about 'all forms of racism'. It's empty words and deflection.
According to Stephen Whittle, "they" have Labour's backing on self-id. If JC is genuinely interested in women's issues, he can start by disputing that claim. Over to you, Jeremy.

He’s the oldest student political activist in town.

Most definitely. Which is why his breathless commonroom ranting had quite a lot of young people swept along for a while.
But eventually most students wise up and realize that empty posturing is just that. In all honesty, I think Corbyn thinks he means well, but like Owen Jones, he's got enough canny to rabble rouse but is a bit too functionally dim to move beyond the banner waving.

And yes, I think he's, like a lot of men, casually misogynist. He wouldn't outright say he hates women, but he will comfortably contribute to a culture that shits all over them without a second thought, and that amounts to the same thing as far as I can see.

jeremy Corbyn is a twat , if he cant organise a successful opposition with the current govt he is not fit for the job

He’s the oldest student political activist in town. Reminds me of the old socialist worker types at uni.

Trump is possibly the most ignorant, racist, xenphobic, mysoginistic World leader. He constantly lies, he is untrustworthy and he is a loose cannon who could well start a major war at any time.

So we should turn a blind eye to Corbyn's misogyny? The guy can't even define what a women is let alone defeat misogyny.

Yeah, I wouldn't vote Tory over Labour in general, but I'm always curious that women are expected to put up with crumbs and an assurance that Labour 'aren't that bad'.

Just for clarity, I think Corbyn is an agitator, local level union organizer who let his ego get ahead of him, has zero leadership ability and no workable ideas of his own, surrounded by shit advisers.

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Indeed. The derailers have been out in force today.

I think about the moment when I was rudely awakened - in the last couple of years - to the visceral misogyny of the left, and it seems that that moment represented a perfect storm of the global elevation of the transgender agenda and the election of Corbyn as party leader.

People are reading too much Lefty propaganda

Or looking at his policies, listening to his words, watching his actions and yes, reading his Tweets and making up their own minds.

Maybe.

Distract us with the shiny Trump and we hopefully won't see the left's raging, hypocritical misogyny eh?

I posted this on another thread.

John McDonnell hosting a "symposium" in the House of Commons organised by the English Collective of Prostitutes.

Definitely not going to defend the policy on all women shortlists, but to call JC misogynist is going a bit far. Defending pro-choice views, an international aid plan that makes much of supporting grassroots women's organisations, attacking inequality at home and low benefits that disproportionately hit women - all this is feminist. Not perfect, not explicit enough, not going far enough - but in practical terms for how policies impact on women I would choose them over the Tories any day of the week.

People are reading too much Lefty propaganda

You don't need to read any propaganda to see he's a narcissist of the highest order. You hired him because he spoke to the common working people - in a way that Jeremy Corbyn does not. He appeals to people's prejudices and frustrations. He's still a nut job, though. Roaming around the world winding people up.

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