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Stonewall petition

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paulaspoodle · 01/06/2019 17:41

Has anyone got any theories as to why only 8,599 people signed the petition calling for Stonewall to reconsider its approach in terms of trans matters? I mean that's only about 0.6% of the LGBT population of the UK, even if you go by one of the lower estimates. And, of course, seeing as a few straight people would have signed the percentage is likely to be even lower. The petition was very well publicised and, as it's anonymous, there's no excuse about people being scared to sign. Surely if so-called trans ideology is such a problem for lesbians as we're led to believe then the figure would be far higher? Has anyone got any theories? The only one that springs to mind is that most LGB people don't see it as a huge issue

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insidev · 03/06/2019 07:54

Just curious if Alison Moyet has been in touch with you at all lately Jonny? She seemed to do an about-face on Twitter the other day.

MenstruatorExtraordinaire · 03/06/2019 07:47

Thanks Jonny for everything you do 💜💜💜

truthisarevolutionaryact · 03/06/2019 07:44

Thank you Jonny. Flowers

8659 this morning so this thread really has helped spread the word .

FloralBunting · 03/06/2019 01:38

Beautiful ❤

Ereshkigal · 03/06/2019 00:59

Well done 🍷

JonnyBest · 03/06/2019 00:23

Hi all. I was one of the founders of the petition, along with Julie Bindel, Paul Burston, Kate Harris, Kathleen Stock, and Beatrix Campbell. I was actually rather pleased with 8500 sigs. There's a limit to who you can reach on Twitter, and it does take a lot to motivate people to sign something like this. It's also a complex set of issues, heavily stigmatised and with the entire LGBT establishment labelling anyone with GC views as a bigot. I think that 8500 is a good number given that context. As a comparator, the #gwiththet petition, founded by millionaire Antony Watson, a Stonewall donor, which had support from MPs and lots of PR in the LGBT press, achieved only 850ish signatures. The Stonewall petition will stay live and we will push it on social media every now and again to keep it growing. Please do keep sharing it too. I urge everyone to read the comments - they are what really matter. Some of the voices in there will break your heart. We plan to produce a summary report of the petition soon which will enable us to share the voices of those who have commented with their stories and experience. Thanks to everyone who has signed so far. We're not done yet.

Herland · 02/06/2019 22:38

Signed.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 02/06/2019 22:28
  1. Well done OP Halo
SpartacusAutisticusAHF · 02/06/2019 22:28

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spongedog · 02/06/2019 21:44

thanks for the information. I am not on twitter a lot and miss stuff like this.

OrchidInTheSun · 02/06/2019 21:42

Gosh I thought I'd signed this but it seems like I didn't. Thanks OP!

MenstruatorExtraordinaire · 02/06/2019 21:37

8642? Wow that's great.

Ereshkigal · 02/06/2019 19:54

Just feel the need to update that it's 8642 now. Thanks for the reminder OP!

Lumene · 02/06/2019 16:53

I didn’t realise it was so many as a % of the whole community. That is a significant proportion to sign a petition that has been shared a bit on social media.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 02/06/2019 14:02

8637 now.

FlankerMum · 02/06/2019 13:33

Signed Smile

aposterhasnoname · 02/06/2019 12:39

This is the first I’d heard of this, and I’m on Twitter and follow most of the main GC accounts. I’ve signed now.

SpartacusAutisticusAHF · 02/06/2019 12:35

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TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole · 02/06/2019 12:01

What a silly question to be quite honest. And rather transparent too. I once saw a petition with only a few hundred signatures that was asking the NHS to fund treatment for a kid with a rare illness. Have seen many like that actually. Oddly enough, amount of petition responses tend to mean..well not much at all. But of course, the low number on this means that lesbians are really not that bothered about being told that if they are gay females, they are bigots simply for that and they must learn to handle penis Hmm

MaryContrary1995 · 02/06/2019 08:48

I'm on twitter and hadn't even seen this. Thanks for the heads up!

RespecttheCountryMember · 02/06/2019 00:45

Oh , I saw something about this on Twitter but thought it was a different petition. One I'd signed much earlier in the year.
But apparently not, so I've signed it now. Thanks, TruthIs, for the link, (and OP).

Sorry OP, no, I don't know why more haven't signed, or what kind of number would've been expected. Might ask around the dykes I know IRL and see if they've heard of it.

LangCleg · 01/06/2019 23:13

Oh, thank you so much for reminding me of this petition, OP. All those articulate, detailed, heartfelt comments. It's quite galvanised my resolve to oppose the homophobia inherent in extremist genderism.

You've made my Saturday night just that little bit better and inspiring.

Thanks again.

ByGrabtharsHammarWhatASaving · 01/06/2019 23:07

OMFG, as if that wasn't bad enough I've just seen that 99.9% of the UK population hasn't signed the petition asking the government to fund research and treatment for children with brain injuries!

That's sick! How can 99.9% of the UK be totally OK with children having untreated brain injuries?!

Did you sign it OP? Do you care about the children with brain injuries? Signing The Petition for any given issue is the only way of declaring your political and ethical stance on it, so hurry up and tell us where you stand!

Ereshkigal · 01/06/2019 23:02

Ah, those caring, sharing types who post threads just to say "Lesbians? Hardly anyone cares about you. Ha ha."

Always saying so much more about themselves than the topic.

This.

MenstruatorExtraordinaire · 01/06/2019 23:00

8614 now. 15 more signatures thanks to the op. Good shout OP. Might share it on my social media.