A pleasant surprise

I came to this thread to check it was real and not a joke. I quickly learned it is most definitely real! Someone genuinely complained about that good news tweet!

so you didn't come to learn and be informed then? You came here as a joke; one that you could back to your allies and laugh and get outraged about.

I think if you stuck around you'd actually learn a lot. There are some of the absolute best women here. The most informed; intelligent; educated; experienced. Give it a go. However, more than that, try reading some materials ( plenty of links on here), or some literature.

This is a chat board. A place for people to come together to share information and to organise.

nice swears Zoe, but you've got a long way to go I'm afraid

so about this women are people who eye roll when men do something stupid thing

you cool with including the rapist Karen White in that definition? what prison should Karen have gone to - men's or women's?

And there it is folks. Proof, shoudl you still need it that Our Zoe hasn't read a bloody word we fucking cunts have written all buggering day long!

Zoe hun, sweetie. Any cunt can swear here. It's a swearing twats paradise.

Before you go, Zoe, these assaults that you mentioned? any more on them?

or are you just parroting that supposed factoid about violent feminists without knowing any actual details?

In all honesty trying to justify my womanhood to you comes under the banner of “taking homework assignments from strangers” and my days of writing essays for free (or at great personal expense in the case of being a student) are far behind me I’m afraid
Yeah, no we dobt want an essay, 5 pithy one liners about a woman is?

And it's not your womanhood we are asking about, its jy, its Rachel McK, its Madigan, its especially pips/Philip as hes only a woman part time. Yes explain pips.

Oh no!

There´s a sad sort of clanging from the clock in the hall
And the bells in the steeple too
And up in the nursery an absurd little bird
Is popping out to say "cuckoo"
Cuckoo, cuckoo
Regretfully they tell us Cuckoo, cuckoo
But firmly they compel us Cuckoo, cuckoo
To say goodbye
Cuckoo!
To you
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, good night
I hate to go and leave this pretty sight
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, adieu
Adieu, adieu, to yieu and yieu and yieu
So long, farewell, au revoir, auf wiedersehen...

Women’s Studies brand of feminism

Yes that's right. Feminism is about the position of women as a class. a class based on their sex. Inter-sectional feminism, by contrast, just sound like a load of dense bollocks. Almost intentionally so.

And feminism has always included all women - whatever their social class, race or religion.

in contrast Inter-sectional feminism seems to identify black women, for example, in very racist ways -as being some kind of sub-group of women, in much argument that people have attempted to introduce here.

I identify with women - regardless of their differences. What unites us all is our position as women in a male dominated society. Biological sex is not a social construct. Gender is.

Argumentative mobs do have a pack mentality, yes. Very deliberate choice of word.

I came to this thread to check it was real and not a joke. I quickly learned it is most definitely real! Someone genuinely complained about that good news tweet!

Surely it’s a board for mums or it would be called femalesnet?
(To be fair either could conceivably sounds like a porn site for those with a breeding fetish.)

I will stick with my inclusive intersectional feminism thanks, it’s a lot more relevant to me and my communities in today’s world.

Do you even know how your words betray you, Zoe? You’ve dehumanised us by describing us as a pack, a word commonly used for a group of animals.

Also, your dismissal of second wave feminism and mumsnet as 4 chan with prams sits ill with your alleged understanding of internalised misogyny- step one in that is dismissing the experiences of you foremothers, your mother, and everyone else’s mother. how did you miss that bit in your studies?

Thanks LangCLeg I did for my own amusement, but it is nice to know someone noticed it

I thought the double hit of We Are Pack was quite good, no... it was fucking amazing. I never thought I'd get 7of9 and Phyllis into the same quote And look, I swored.

Zoe, every time you want to write 'T*s', just replace it with 'witches'

or 'disobedient women'. you don't feel any mystical kinship with them I expect, do you Zoe?

Erm, I’m not using witches as a substitute for transphobes

"Transphobe", just like "transphobia" are meaningless, fictitious terms.

thats better

Right I’ve stopped laughing now.

Breathes

You shouldn’t laugh at men of course, because I hear they are afraid of women laughing at them.

What were you saying again about the ‘bra mansplain rapport’ thing Zoe? Actually no don’t, I’m not sure my pelvic floor is up to it!

Why is there only one *
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*
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Use transphobes then

Just no more *** for the love of god

I really don’t, I hate arguments, it’s all very tiresome but for some reason I am stubborn today and have been replying to the whole pack on my own. I think I might need someone to cut me off!

So why do you come onto a board on which you know people come together to discuss a particular shared view and experience? Having been closed down everywhere else? We're not ignorant of your view. Quite the contrary! However we are never going to agree with you so long as you attempt to insult, pressurise or insist. You are wasting your time; mainly because you don't want to understand - because to understand would totally undermine the ideology you seek to live and express.

The ideology you seek to express is in direct contrast to the reality that we all know exists. Trans women are not women. Women have their own unique position as a sex class. That is what unites us. Even if we are all shades of colour, creed and background.

There can be no common ground except to say that we must surely all agree with basic civil rights for all human beings.

Erm, I’m not using witches as a substitute for transphobes. I don’t think trans witches would be impressed!

I’ll just post some Verboten terms a few times...

Pack?

Ive been as good as gold on this thread...its just the continued thats grating

have been replying to the whole pack on my own

"Pack"?

... could you be any more insulting?

Mumsnet is a community for females, Zoe ... if you cannot cope with that perhaps it is wiser that you take your leave from it.

Maybe I’ll post a bunch of swear words in my next post so I get banned!

What makes you think swearing gets you banned from MN? It's renowned as a sweary website. Are we not womaning in a sufficiently unsweary manner?