A pleasant surprise

Wow. I loved the earnest fantasy experiment of "imagine you wake up as a man". You are still a man, even if you have a ladybrain.
This is my thought experiment: imagine a group of men told you that they had decided that the definition of woman was no longer adult human female. You must now accept that woman meant women plus a group of men telling you how to think and see yourselves. What if they told you that they were allowed to go into any women only space. What if they told you that you were not allowed to call women's issues "women's issues" any more because it excluded this group of men. What if they told you that women who recognise colonisation and appropriation when they see it are to be excluded, sacked, threatened and excommunicated.
Whose side would you take? Would you agree with these men, or would you insist you had the right to talk about yourselves in a way that didn't include offensive sexist stereotypes?

This was great, I'm gutted I missed it. Reminds me of the threads that converted me from the "be nice and pretend" side to the GC side. Every now and then I start to doubt myself, to wonder if there really is something to it all that I just don't get, so when a poster who claims to understand it all pops up I get excited and hopeful. But no, it's still just be kind, "woman" is beyond description, my nice trans friend, trans = dysphoria, offensive appropriation of black and intersex women, you're all obsessed with genitals, stop reducing women to their biology you uterus having menstruators etc etc. Layered heavily with stereotypes, internalised misogyny, and straight up lies about crime stats and UK law. Vacuous sexist meaningless twattery. Thanks for strengthening my belief that the GC argument is the only one that holds water. And for a couple of proper fucking belly laughs.

Very true littlbrowndog
But sadly these days being pro Women is assumed as being anti trans. Although there may have been a sea change on this thread, many posters have stated that Trans women are male and have not been deleted. It'll be interesting to see if this comment is deleted. I'm not one of the well known regulars here. So watch and wait.

Yeah but Zoe never gotthe fact that none here are aginst transgender people.

We are protecting the rights of women and girls.

That’s it

I know words gooder because part of the degree I did was on language.

Oh, and I can't work out what the antonyms for 'crazy' and 'mystic' are.

And you can't object to Queer unless I say so.

Honestly, it's been quite fun to dip into the netherworld of AWA mind twisty crap on and off today.

And can I just say, that I would not like to see any trans person discriminated against due to their trans status, or abused. But trans rights are trans rights - they are not women's rights.

Women have the right to discuss this, to meet and discuss a change in the law which will obliterate their right to women-only spaces, services and rights, and to define what it means to be a woman. Which means to be born female. Men cannot become women.

Reading this thread back, the first clue that zoe is a TRA and also a transwoman is this response:

JessicaWakefieldSV Tue 04-Jun-19 12:37:30
There’s a massive difference to having an androgynous look though. How silly to say we all can’t properly identify a man or woman by looking at them. We can. We do. Every day. Throughout history. It’s not hard.

Zoecb Tue 04-Jun-19 12:38:33
“It’s not hard”... and yet :-p

And then there's this:
In all honesty trying to justify my womanhood to you comes under the banner of “taking homework assignments from strangers”

Women generally don't feel the need to "justify their womanhood" - they just are women - and with all the biological shit that goes with it, including menstruation, medical issues with menstruation, unwanted pregnancy, cervical smears, higher risk of rape & harassment, infertility, childbirth, breastfeeding, workplace discrimination because you are a woman of child-bearing age, or have had children, and all the crap included with being born female.

Along with not being able to define "woman" - well, it;s just obvious really.

Yes, loved the I've literally got parts of a degree.

This thread is comedy gold.

One highlight for me was the assumption they may have been the only person here with a degree.

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It was RUDE bingle

Rufus, tbh, I did actually think you were Samuel L Jackson at one point.

I do look awesome in my shades..it has to be said

So true, floral, so so true.

It's the mark of distinction between the amateur and the classy professional denizens of FWR. The wannabes hear that you can swear here and they have to build up to a disappointing string of all caps schoolboy toilet graffiti.

The regulars saunter in with the coolness of Samuel L Jackson in shades and a black flat cap, and unleash a sweary insult so precise and witty 1000s of women up and down the country and around the world actually get stitch laughing while reading their phones and laptops while their families and pets try and work out why they are crying with mirth.

"okey dokey no place for blokies" That's feminism for you.

😉😉

Which is ironic as you are usually the rude

Aw gawd I missed the rude

It was RUDE bingle

Highly original then. Thanks.

It was just a stream of abusive and sexually explicit expletives, Binglebong.

Thanks Absolute

Umm so what's 4chan for, 4s or chans? And kiwi farms? Kiwis or farms?

Obviously it's for farmers of kiwi fruit. Fancy not knowing that!

Slightly gutted I missed the deleted post. Sounded like it was something oh so original. I have missed enlightenment.

Back to the original subject.... well done OP, sounds like you did a good job. Have you heard anything back?

Zebra
I mostly lurk here and make the odd comment now and again. Your post is spot on, TRAs try so hard to impose their hardline version of their truth on here and tell women that they are terves. Then when all the amazing women on here take their assertions and critically dissect them every TRA can't cope and as you said their absolute hatred of intelligentWomen explodes out and their posts become more and more incoherent.
As a lurker it's a joy to watch and each and every time I learn more. So thank you all from me.