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violence against Indigenous women, girls, and 2SLGBTQQIA people

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everythingthelighttouches · 01/06/2019 06:21

I thought this was entirely about sexual violence towards women? Wonder if any of those murdered or dissapeared didn't consider themselves women?

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 01/06/2019 09:00

That was a weird read, both articles. The people involved in highlighting the missing women say 'women and girls' all the time, for decades. They talk about their wives, their daughters all the time. So the grass roots awareness raising has been about indigenous women being murdered.

But.... The report acknowledged disagreements over what constituted genocide, but concluded: "The national inquiry's findings support characterizing these acts, including violence against Indigenous women, girls, and 2SLGBTQQIA [two-spirit, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgendered, queer, questioning, intersex and asexual] people, as genocide."

They quibbled over 'genocide' and then slung in a whole new cohort of people so as not to be talking about women!

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everythingthelighttouches · 01/06/2019 08:49

Precisely neurotrash

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NeurotrashWarrior · 01/06/2019 07:40

Really the point is here, it didn't matter how they 'identified,' they died because they were female and indigenous.

That's where an intersection is an important distinction and why it's being termed genocide.

NeurotrashWarrior · 01/06/2019 07:37

I did wonder if the 2S was included simply as Canada obviously is the home to indigenous people who may have used that phrase?

But it's still pretty irrelevant unless the motives were homophobia or another hate in addition to simply being indigenous and female.

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everythingthelighttouches · 01/06/2019 07:26

Yes, i think adding 2SLGBTQQIA is irrelevant and distracting.

Not to mention 2S is a highly contentious term and viewed as cultural appropriation by many aboriginal peoples.

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NeurotrashWarrior · 01/06/2019 07:04

two-spirit, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgendered, queer, questioning, intersex and asexual

Guardian

www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/31/canada-missing-indigenous-women-cultural-genocide-government-report

Using that term is unfair as clearly the violence is against them because they're female and indigenous and its extremely unclear as to how they identified- eg lesbians? Was it therefore homophobic? Intersex is obviously not identifiable and is a reality. If trans then that is significant too; ftm? So the violence still biological sex based?

NeurotrashWarrior · 01/06/2019 06:58

I thought it was too after reading and watching previous documentaries on this.

Wtf is 2SLGBTQQIA

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everythingthelighttouches · 01/06/2019 06:39

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48481958

Sorry, link here.

I would like to correct myself. I thought this was about racist violence and sexual violence against women and girls who are native Canadians.

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yetanotherusernameAgain · 01/06/2019 06:37

Link?