The new Goths?

mental health issues

I think that still applied to emos. In my group at school there were kids with significant anxiety and depression, bipolar in one case, and a lot of us also were either diagnosed with ASD/ADHD or with hindsight displayed a lot of the traits if undiagnosed. We got to think we were better than the mainstream kids who often made us feel like outsiders before emo came along, we got to feel like we belonged. And we had shared interests as we all wanted to fit in with each other, again that feeling of belonging.

I’ve seen this parallel for a while. Girls are largely long haired, over-made-up, all wearing the same jeans, trainers, belly top and bomber jacket. It’s so homogenous and I could see how hard/painful rejecting that could be.

I think that there is something to that. I also think though that a good number of the kids being caught up in the trans trend have mental health issues rather than being. Some kids who had mental health issues of course went for countercultural groups but I never felt like the groups were mainly about that, if that makes sense.

*ravers

Pre internet, teen tribes were music based, from teddyboys through mods, punks, skinheads, racers etc. Music no longer offers any sort of counter culture and media generally is so fragmented and on demand that tribes are decentralised to the point where they gather online around other things e.g Instagram trends such as MUAs.
When eg in a school you had a bunch of skinheads, there'd be variation in devotion to the cause, and the fair weather ones who liked the look or music would water down the ones who were more hardcore. IMO, by spreading a tribe thinly but globally via the internet as with trans trenders you lose the watering down effect of the local tribe as it's just all the hardcore whipping each other in to a frenzy about procuring hormones etc, devoid of much of the nuance and caution of face to face contact.

It's just a way to 'shock' the parents but with much bigger consequences than goth or emo due to the 'woke' thinking of those who should know better

I've thought this for a while, goth was so 90's emo was 2000's and trans is now

Thereis definitely something in that theory.
The fact that girls seem to be under so much more pressure to be feminine and look "right" is adding to it in my view.
Girls now nearly all have long hair, my younger cousins have full, expensive make up bags, false lashes and nails, brows done by professionals even if that means threading for £4.
In my day we all wore combat trousers and make up was a glitter roll on lip gloss and mascara at the most.
Also I was anorexic, as a lot of girls seemed to be if you believe the media at the time, none of my friends or anyone I knew was. some of my friends did cut themselves.
Kids don't seem to do that so much nowadays. If the media is to be believed.

I've read that before - now trans is growing you see fewer "emo" kids around.