Jonathan Yaniv

Omg just watched that video clip, yes in this instance it's totally appropriate to discuss appearance.

He's clearly much cleverer than he appears we need to be asking what that absurd attire at that meeting achieves.

I agree that when appropriate, we should discuss JV's appearance.

If a actual woman turned up at a govt meeting dressed like that, with false tits hanging out, it would be discussed everywhere, and rightly so. We should call out someone who thinks this is appropriate attire. It's a very large Red Flag.

Bertrandrussell: 'What people say is important- not how they look.'

1. Yaniv says things about helping young girls insert tampons in mixed sex changing areas, so pretty important, yes.

1. Although I'd normally agree with you about tolerance regards what someone chooses to wear, what if that person is getting off on obliging their audience to be unwilling participants in their sexual fetish? That would be abusive and important to the people involved (potentially all of us on social media, I know I'm reaching for the eyeball bleach)

1. What middle aged, overweight woman would get away with turning up to give a serious presentation dressed the way this person was dressed and then snickering about their tits falling out? Having been socialised from birth to understand I will publicly get a kicking (maybe metaphorically, but potentially literally) if I dressed as wildly inappropriately as that, I think it's relevant to the debate about 'what makes a woman' and that it's legitimate to mention appearance in this context.

J Yaniv publicly displays how much power Yaniv has and enjoys the fact nobody will challenge it

somebody is challenging:
archive.li/kOQ3X

I am going to say something about JY's appearance... because it is not adult attire appropriate for the forum or audience.

There was a young man in women's clothes at the school gates a few weeks back, not a parent, but accompanying one. Their attire for the school gates was completely inappropriate (think Allo Allo when they dress the British Airman up as prostitutes). Rightly or wrongly, it would have raised eyebrows and whispering if a woman had been dressed that way, the fact that this was a male person was no different. Poor sod looked terrified and incredibly uncomfortable (the mum he was with went inside to speak to admin and left him almost shaking at the door). In the end I made up and excuse to say hello and pass the time of day, as I thought it might make him relax a little and force the glaring dads to be a little more discreet with their smerks (which it did).

I do wonder why he put himself through that though and why someone close didn't have a word in his ear about what's suitable where and when (like Patrick Swayzy and Wesley Snipes did for John Lezigamo in To Wong Foo).

Pmk

I'd say most TRAs do this, to a greater or lesser extent

Yes. I agree. Sometimes they look like such bad imitations of women - shitty hair, shitty make up, shitty clothes. It’s almost like they’ve done it deliberately as an expression of their contempt.

I totally agree it’s an act of control. It’s deliberately provocative. Daring someone to say something so that they can start shrieking transphobia. Abhorrent.

I'd say most TRAs do this, to a greater or lesser extent.

I'm loving this is still here though. Monitors given up? MN acknowledging reality. So many questions.

And I did them all without straightening my tiara.

J Yaniv publicly displays how much power Yaniv has and enjoys the fact nobody will challenge it.

Every selfie in the girls toilets mirror, with children and young women in the background.

Every tweet about how best to approach a young girl to help with a tampon.

Every declaration that they have exposed themselves in the girls toilets and also actively sought to look at those girls too (above tweet)

Plain sight. The power this person enjoys must be absolutely intoxicating. And thrilling for those like minded individuals who facilitate this behaviour.

The attire points at the manipulation of the audience as well as the wearers inability to respect the forum they are attending. It is an act of control, a way to spit in the face of anyone not trans and women in general - to distract the audience from JY's active work to strip females of their safety

Agreed

Agp in action

I totally agree it’s an act of control. It’s deliberately provocative. Daring someone to say something so that they can start shrieking transphobia. Abhorrent.

I am going to say something about JY's appearance... because it is not adult attire appropriate for the forum or audience.

What respectable adult would dress in a formal dress with a tiara while spilling out of said dress to a government meeting or gala for that matter? Not one, not one sane individual would dress that way for this forum and expect to be taken seriously. Miss Universe or an actual princess or dutchess could show up dressed like that and it would be just as inappropriate.

The attire points at the manipulation of the audience as well as the wearers inability to respect the forum they are attending. It is an act of control, a way to spit in the face of anyone not trans and women in general - to distract the audience from JY's active work to strip females of their safety.

JY wants a harem of little girls in order to harvest their sanpro post menses and help with tampon usage - ignoring the attire ignores JY's abuse target group.

I can't work out how he has so much power to remove references on the internet, even with automated searches it must take while to find the info to get it taken down

I am not going to comment on Yaniv's appearance. But I find the actions of both this person and of Oger abhorrent, and I am disgusted that MN's policy requires me to use female pronouns for them.

It is an insult to me as a woman.

We must stop focussing on their appearance.

Someone should tell JY that saggy false tits and low cut dresses really don’t go.

Just noticed their twitter handle “@TrustedNerd.”

In plain sight.

Dear God

oh it did

hmm didn't show

This tweet is disturbing - admitting to indecent exposure? And urgh at 'we're all girls'

This is fucking bonkers. Canada need to find its backbone

They cant though can they. This is exactly what people said would happen. No ones gonna admit they got it wrong.

How on earth did that guy in the front keep a straight face with prom dress and tiara on hahaha

Reminder that the WHO said this week that gender dysphoria is not a mental health illness.

It did not, however, comment on many people who identify as trans also have mental health problems - BPD, anxiety, depression all seem tohave higher prevalence in this population than in others.

Also, top tip. Tuck your fillets in your corset, cos that is a tough look to rock.