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CLP proposing motion for conference at a meeting this week calling for the Labour Party to oppose any updates to the GRA unless women's groups are consulted.

56 replies

frazzled1 · 27/05/2019 17:44

Bromley & Chislehurst CLP apparently. Heartening read, assuming it's true. Lily et al not happy about it on Twitter, calls to attend the meeting and vote it down.

CLP proposing motion for conference at a meeting this week calling for the Labour Party to oppose any updates to the GRA unless women's groups are consulted.
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KatvonHostileExtremist · 28/05/2019 12:42

The charge to call us all bigots is being led by a 17 year old boy.

It would be amusing if this stuff didn't have real life consequences.

LizzieSiddal · 28/05/2019 12:40

Wow this is fantastic! Thank you Bromley & Chislehurst CLP

MacaroonMama · 28/05/2019 12:33

Good luck Jann! I can't make the meeting but I'll email you (from the official Labour party pages) if ok? Your words are so carefully chosen that anyone opposing will appear quite unreasonable. I hope! Yes please keep us posted.

RubyViolet · 28/05/2019 11:32

Good luck Janniblueeyes, l am in Jeremy’s ward, there is zero chance of any discussion on this. The woke bros wouldn’t have it.

Treepaeony · 28/05/2019 10:30

In fact there are other CLPs who have proposed similar motions - some successfully, such as Tottenham a year ago. There was opposition of course but most members agreed that proper and full consultation was crucial and proper impact assessments undertaken. Good luck Bromley & Chiselhurst!

nettie434 · 28/05/2019 09:41

Good luck janniblueeyes & other Bromley & Chislehurst CLP members. As others have said, how can a women's officer oppose discussion with women's groups?

how poorly Labour did in the recent elections how much that is to do with losing women's votes.

Coyoacan That is an interesting point. Women switching to Labour was a big reason why they won in 1997. A few years ago I would have said there would have been huge attention in Labour to analysing if the party was becoming less popular with women. Doesn't seem to be the case now.

Both local and Euro elections have lower turnouts so it's hard to make a judgement about Labour's appeal to women without any inside information but it's a possibility. There is also something called the British Election Studies which reports in detail on electoral turnout. Not sure if they have released 2017 results yet. However, the hashtag #Labourlosingwomen suggests that it might be a problem.

VickyEadie · 28/05/2019 09:37

It's only one constituency party, though - I'd be more heartened if this happened in at least a few more.

janniblueeyes · 28/05/2019 08:21

Thanks very much all of you! I’ll keep you posted, if you don’t hear from others before. x

Coyoacan · 28/05/2019 03:07

I'm not in the UK, but I was wondering when I heard how poorly Labour did in the recent elections how much that is to do with losing women's votes.

Good luck tomorrow night, this is long overdue.

frazzled1 · 27/05/2019 23:22

I'm not in the area any longer MacaroonMama but am very interested in any further updates on this. Best of luck with the motion janniblueeyes.

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MrsFogi · 27/05/2019 22:56

I'm pleased to see there are some GC women in the area (I was beginning to wonder if I was on my own Grin).

Voice0fReason · 27/05/2019 22:49

Watching with interest but I am very sceptical of this working.
I'm not convinced Labour have the backbone to stand up to the TRAs.

iguanadonna · 27/05/2019 22:26

Maybe I won't leave the party after all. I'd decided that women like me, who think that female bodies should be centered in feminism, weren't wanted any more. But perhaps it's possible to find ways to connect with other women in the party who think we matter.

Angryresister · 27/05/2019 22:17

Watching with interest. About time the local groups made their views felt and changed the bullying culture that exists on this topic

ZebrasAreBras · 27/05/2019 22:09

Thank you, Bromley & Chislehurst CLP. You're in my neck of the woods, although I'm not a labour member. This gives me hope though Smile
Please keep fighting the good cause for women and girls everywhere (whether they agree with you or not!)

KatvonHostileExtremist · 27/05/2019 22:09

Good luck Jann
I've recently left the party over this, it still makes me feel so bad. 26 years I was a member. Hopefully Labour will speak for women again soon.

S1naidSucks · 27/05/2019 21:46

Welcome janniblueeyes. I must admit I was very cynical about what women’s groups you were referring to, until I read that line about including women that don’t believe people can change sex. Good luck and I hope it goes well.

bettybeans · 27/05/2019 21:40

Evening Jann. I'm sure you probably anticipated reaction coming from certain quarters and are prepared for it - I hope the motion is given proper consideration and isn't derailed by the usual nonsense. Wishing you all the very best with this.

AlwaysComingHome · 27/05/2019 21:32

I really hope Lily publicly opposes this.

Nothing would better indicate their unsuitability for the job.

janniblueeyes · 27/05/2019 21:26

Good evening ladies! I’m Jann, I’m the Secretary of Bromley & Chislehurst Labour Party and am heartened to hear such good, supportive comments from you about our motion. We welcome any members-new & old. Please come along, you’ll be very welcome.

MacaroonMama · 27/05/2019 21:04

Snapespeare and frazzled1 would you mind updating this thread if you go? I have work tomorrow evening that I can't get out of. Sorry, I would have liked to attend to support.

happydappy2 · 27/05/2019 19:42

This so clearly highlights why Lily should not be in the role of womens officer....when the adults take responsibility and remover them from the post.

bettybeans · 27/05/2019 18:56

17 year old Ben doesn't want to see women being consulted on something which dramatically impacts their rights and will do "everything to ensure it fails resoundingly"

Thanks Ben. Very progressive of you.

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